Re: Boxing picture of the year

dbudge Sun Nov 21, 2010 6:47 pm

the next picture along in that sequence is equally as good

**gomez1012** Sun Nov 21, 2010 6:48 pm

marbleheadmaui wrote:I'm sure PW is a nice guy and all. And it's not like he's a BAD fighter, it is just that he could be so much more...or I think he could have been.

He's go a TON of energy, a mild personality and tremendous natural talent. One would think that the cpmbination would lead to a highly coachable guy who could be trained to be highly technically efficient. For whatever reason it jsut hasn't happened.

Now given all this I STILL think he's more than a handful for any 147 (assuming he can makes it) and he's among the best 154's on the planet.

like a lot of talented fighters these days, its on the trainer

George Peterson doesnt strike me as a teacher of the game

dbudge Sun Nov 21, 2010 6:48 pm

even better http://espn.go.com/espn/photos/wire/_/id/1000/photo/969504/boxing

Groundhog Sun Nov 21, 2010 6:50 pm

dbudge wrote:even better http://espn.go.com/espn/photos/wire/_/id/1000/photo/969504/boxing

wow. that's like in the movies where the protagonists are walking away in slo-mo with their backs turned from an explosion.. only this explosion was PW hitting the deck cool

Guest Sun Nov 21, 2010 6:52 pm

gomez1012 wrote:
marbleheadmaui wrote:I'm sure PW is a nice guy and all. And it's not like he's a BAD fighter, it is just that he could be so much more...or I think he could have been.

He's go a TON of energy, a mild personality and tremendous natural talent. One would think that the cpmbination would lead to a highly coachable guy who could be trained to be highly technically efficient. For whatever reason it jsut hasn't happened.

Now given all this I STILL think he's more than a handful for any 147 (assuming he can makes it) and he's among the best 154's on the planet.

like a lot of talented fighters these days, its on the trainer

George Peterson doesnt strike me as a teacher of the game

+1

**captainanddew** Sun Nov 21, 2010 6:59 pm

Groundhog wrote:
dbudge wrote:even better http://espn.go.com/espn/photos/wire/_/id/1000/photo/969504/boxing

wow. that's like in the movies where the protagonists are walking away in slo-mo with their backs turned from an explosion.. only this explosion was PW hitting the deck

yeah he took a big step and then the right hand went up. Watching last night, for me, PW dropped in slow motion. It was amazing.

Guest Sun Nov 21, 2010 7:00 pm

Groundhog wrote:
dbudge wrote:even better http://espn.go.com/espn/photos/wire/_/id/1000/photo/969504/boxing

wow. that's like in the movies where the protagonists are walking away in slo-mo with their backs turned from an explosion.. only this explosion was PW hitting the deck

Give Sergio long hair and he's Antonio Banderas in Desperado.

Guest Sun Nov 21, 2010 7:40 pm

Ali wrote:
Groundhog wrote:
dbudge wrote:even better http://espn.go.com/espn/photos/wire/_/id/1000/photo/969504/boxing

wow. that's like in the movies where the protagonists are walking away in slo-mo with their backs turned from an explosion.. only this explosion was PW hitting the deck

Give Sergio long hair and he's Antonio Banderas in Desperado.

....and zorro..ask pavik.

Guest Sun Nov 21, 2010 7:42 pm

dmar5143 wrote:
Ali wrote:
Groundhog wrote:
dbudge wrote:even better http://espn.go.com/espn/photos/wire/_/id/1000/photo/969504/boxing

wow. that's like in the movies where the protagonists are walking away in slo-mo with their backs turned from an explosion.. only this explosion was PW hitting the deck

Give Sergio long hair and he's Antonio Banderas in Desperado.
....and zorro..ask pavik.

lol he carved a Z into Kelly's eye.

**GrantZilla** Sun Nov 21, 2010 9:04 pm

I'll tell you why Williams hasn't improved and isn't as good as he should.

It's a disease that is killing all young fighters these days. It's called INACTIVITY

Groundhog Sun Nov 21, 2010 9:09 pm

GrantZilla wrote:I'll tell you why Williams hasn't improved and isn't as good as he should.

It's a disease that is killing all young fighters these days. It's called INACTIVITY

Is that a synonym for Al Haymon?

boxinglawyer Sun Nov 21, 2010 9:21 pm

Williams is only gonne be able to compete with top-notch fighters at welter, where his physical advantages give him a big head-start. At 154 and 160 his lack of basic boxing fundamentals along with his no defense hands at the waist style will get him killed to death by anyone who can punch a bit.

Guest Sun Nov 21, 2010 9:26 pm

I agree BL, I honestly felt Cintron was on his way to dropping Williams before he scuba dived into the crowds lap.

Guest Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:09 pm

GrantZilla wrote:I'll tell you why Williams hasn't improved and isn't as good as he should.

It's a disease that is killing all young fighters these days. It's called INACTIVITY

Bingo!

**captainanddew** Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:16 pm

marbleheadmaui wrote:
GrantZilla wrote:I'll tell you why Williams hasn't improved and isn't as good as he should.

It's a disease that is killing all young fighters these days. It's called INACTIVITY

Bingo!

Inactivity and I doubt there is a serious desire to teach him how to fight properly. After the first round the trainer told him to keep doing what he was doing, and "let your hands go". There is more to boxing than letting your hands go. With the dimensions he has, if he had been taught how to box properly then he could have been a menace.

Guest Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:20 pm

captainanddew wrote:
marbleheadmaui wrote:
GrantZilla wrote:I'll tell you why Williams hasn't improved and isn't as good as he should.

It's a disease that is killing all young fighters these days. It's called INACTIVITY

Bingo!

Inactivity and I doubt there is a serious desire to teach him how to fight properly. After the first round the trainer told him to keep doing what he was doing, and "let your hands go". There is more to boxing than letting your hands go. With the dimensions he has, if he had been taught how to box properly then he could have been a menace.

One of the things I got right before the fight was that the more frenetic the action, the better Sergio did. Paul Williams gifts dictate that he should be a measured, fight off the back foot, use the jab to control distance kind of fighter. I know the guy drives people crazy, but the right model for Williams is Wlad.

hardcorebee24 Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:22 pm

marbleheadmaui wrote:
captainanddew wrote:
marbleheadmaui wrote:
GrantZilla wrote:I'll tell you why Williams hasn't improved and isn't as good as he should.

It's a disease that is killing all young fighters these days. It's called INACTIVITY

Bingo!

Inactivity and I doubt there is a serious desire to teach him how to fight properly. After the first round the trainer told him to keep doing what he was doing, and "let your hands go". There is more to boxing than letting your hands go. With the dimensions he has, if he had been taught how to box properly then he could have been a menace.

One of the things I got right before the fight was that the more frentic the action, the better Sergio did. Paul Williams gifts dictate that he should be a measured, fight off the back foot, use the jab to control distance kind of fighter. I know the guy drives people crazy, but the right model for Williams is Wlad.

Well, then it's high time he hires Manny Steward. Manny was kissing his ass last night because he sees a future client.

**captainanddew** Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:23 pm

marbleheadmaui wrote:
captainanddew wrote:
marbleheadmaui wrote:
GrantZilla wrote:I'll tell you why Williams hasn't improved and isn't as good as he should.

It's a disease that is killing all young fighters these days. It's called INACTIVITY

Bingo!

Inactivity and I doubt there is a serious desire to teach him how to fight properly. After the first round the trainer told him to keep doing what he was doing, and "let your hands go". There is more to boxing than letting your hands go. With the dimensions he has, if he had been taught how to box properly then he could have been a menace.

One of the things I got right before the fight was that the more frentic the action, the better Sergio did. Paul Williams gifts dictate that he should be a measured, fight off the back foot, use the jab to control distance kind of fighter. I know the guy drives people crazy, but the right model for Williams is Wlad.

Wlad isn't a bad model. The only problem I have with Wlad is that he waits way too long to use the right hand. Too many fights he jabs and throws minimal right hands until about round 6-7.

Guest Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:24 pm

lots of right models.bob foster was another...

Guest Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:25 pm

captainanddew wrote:
marbleheadmaui wrote:
captainanddew wrote:
marbleheadmaui wrote:
GrantZilla wrote:I'll tell you why Williams hasn't improved and isn't as good as he should.

It's a disease that is killing all young fighters these days. It's called INACTIVITY

Bingo!

Inactivity and I doubt there is a serious desire to teach him how to fight properly. After the first round the trainer told him to keep doing what he was doing, and "let your hands go". There is more to boxing than letting your hands go. With the dimensions he has, if he had been taught how to box properly then he could have been a menace.

One of the things I got right before the fight was that the more frentic the action, the better Sergio did. Paul Williams gifts dictate that he should be a measured, fight off the back foot, use the jab to control distance kind of fighter. I know the guy drives people crazy, but the right model for Williams is Wlad.

Wlad isn't a bad model. The only problem I have with Wlad is that he waits way too long to use the right hand. Too many fights he jabs and throws minimal right hands until about round 6-7.

OK, fair point. How about with a little Hitman thrown in?

Guest Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:26 pm

dmar5143 wrote:lots of right models.bob foster was another...

Probably better. That guy fought like the Washington Momument on wheels with a flock of attack condors coming out of the observation window.

hardcorebee24 Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:27 pm

marbleheadmaui wrote:
dmar5143 wrote:lots of right models.bob foster was another...

Probably better. That guy fought like the Washington Momument on wheels with a flock of attack condors coming out of the observation window.

That is an impressive analogy. Have you been taking a writing course at adult ed?

Guest Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:33 pm

hardcorebee24 wrote:
marbleheadmaui wrote:
dmar5143 wrote:lots of right models.bob foster was another...

Probably better. That guy fought like the Washington Momument on wheels with a flock of attack condors coming out of the observation window.

That is an impressive analogy. Have you been taking a writing course at adult ed?

I am as gratified by your compliment as an old spinster who is being pursued by a handsome young man who is richer than Croesus.

I have been matriculating at several internet based institutions of higher learning in an ongoing effort to improve my admittedly weaker than a drunk Scotsman writing efforts.

**captainanddew** Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:37 pm

marbleheadmaui wrote:
hardcorebee24 wrote:
marbleheadmaui wrote:
dmar5143 wrote:lots of right models.bob foster was another...

Probably better. That guy fought like the Washington Momument on wheels with a flock of attack condors coming out of the observation window.

That is an impressive analogy. Have you been taking a writing course at adult ed?

I am as gratified by your compliment as an old spinster who is being pursued by a handsome young man who is richer than Croesus.

I have been matriculating at several internet based institutions of higher learning in an ongoing effort to improve my admittedly weaker than a drunk Scotsman writing efforts.

you do realize that putting drunk before Scotsman is redundant!

Guest Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:38 pm

captainanddew wrote:
marbleheadmaui wrote:
hardcorebee24 wrote:
marbleheadmaui wrote:
dmar5143 wrote:lots of right models.bob foster was another...

Probably better. That guy fought like the Washington Momument on wheels with a flock of attack condors coming out of the observation window.

That is an impressive analogy. Have you been taking a writing course at adult ed?

I am as gratified by your compliment as an old spinster who is being pursued by a handsome young man who is richer than Croesus.

I have been matriculating at several internet based institutions of higher learning in an ongoing effort to improve my admittedly weaker than a drunk Scotsman writing efforts.

you do realize that putting drunk before Scotsman is redundant!

The department of redundancy department isn't covered until chapter 17.

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