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So is Bradley-Alexander not going to be or The Ring belt?

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Post  Guest Wed Dec 15, 2010 12:19 pm

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Ring wrote:That's another why I don't pay a hell of a lot of attention to Ring's rankings, Ring claims to be unbias, but they're not.

Can you tell me a better rankings panel then this:
http://www.ringtv.com/about/

I don't care who they are, they're still wrong much of the time, I take Ring's rankings with a grain of salt.

Rankings are subjective. Go look at Boxrec computer rankings, and gurantee won't agree with those either a lot of the time.

Top four for Boxrec are the same, but then got fucking Ortiz at # 5

Totally subjective, do you know for example who Ring has ranked as the #1 Jr. Middleweight right now?
http://www.ringtv.com/ratings/jr_middleweight/

Ans: Kermit Cintron, they must have given it to him for jumping out of ring and injuring himself against Paul Williams, what a crock of shit. Hell I'm surprised they don't still have a 45 year old Hopkins in their top 10 P4P list.

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Post  dbudge Wed Dec 15, 2010 2:20 pm

Alexander got to number 2 by beating numbver 8 ranked Urango? that's bullshit. how the fuck can you argue that Urango is more accomplished than Maidana, he's always failed at any level remotely near the top. since fucking 2005 he's never been a realistic title contender (undisputed at 140lb), Maidana is way better than anybody than Alexander has fought other than Kotelnik and he needed a fucking gift in that one. talk about hometown decisions. Khan deserves to be at number 2 over Alexander any day of the week. you guys need to wipe the bullshit out of your eyes

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Post  UBeeg9cats Wed Dec 15, 2010 3:24 pm

dbudge wrote:Alexander got to number 2 by beating numbver 8 ranked Urango? that's bullshit. how the fuck can you argue that Urango is more accomplished than Maidana, he's always failed at any level remotely near the top. since fucking 2005 he's never been a realistic title contender (undisputed at 140lb), Maidana is way better than anybody than Alexander has fought other than Kotelnik and he needed a fucking gift in that one. talk about hometown decisions. Khan deserves to be at number 2 over Alexander any day of the week. you guys need to wipe the bullshit out of your eyes

Well Urango has won a trinket and defended it by defeating Ngoudjo and Bailey while Maidana's claim to fame is making a quitter quit. That is Maidana's only win of any significance. Maidana's losses are to Kotelnik and Khan while Urango lost to THE champ Hatton, Berto @ 147, and Devon. Urango having the better wins and the better losses = Urango is more accomplished. I guess we will have to agree to disagree because I think KOing Urango was far more impressive than UDing Maidana.

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Post  GrantZilla Wed Dec 15, 2010 3:33 pm

Ring wrote: Ans: Kermit Cintron, they must have given it to him for jumping out of ring and injuring himself against Paul Williams, what a crock of shit. Hell I'm surprised they don't still have a 45 year old Hopkins in their top 10 P4P list.

Jr Middle is garbage. If they were crooked, they have Pac in the rankings. They don't. If Martinez was still fighting at Jr Middle, he'd be ranked # 2.

Williams got a gift decison last time he beat Martinez, then got knocked into a coma in the rematch. He also looked like shit against Cintron before whole ring incident.

Here's boxrec's rankings
1 Miguel Angel Cotto
2 Alfredo Angulo
3 Shane Mosley
4 Cornelius Bundrage
5 Antonio Margarito
6 Kermit Cintron
7 Ryan Rhodes
8 Saul Alvarez
9 Vanes Martirosyan
10 Sergio Mora


Fat Dan got

1. Sergei Dzinziruk
2. Miguel Cotto
3. Kermit Cintron
4. Alfredo Angulo
5. Ryan Rhodes

So again, tell me who's got better rankings, Ring

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Post  Guest Wed Dec 15, 2010 3:37 pm

Have patience Grant, there will be a Jr Welterweight Ring champion next year.

I don't have a problem with the top three, especially after Alexander struggled with Kotelnik and Khan beat him with ease.

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Post  GrantZilla Wed Dec 15, 2010 3:48 pm

I have zero problems with the rankings, just like to see a legit Champ crownd.

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Post  Guest Wed Dec 15, 2010 3:54 pm

GrantZilla wrote:I have zero problems with the rankings, just like to see a legit Champ crownd.


I am pretty confident they'll be one crowned next year, I just hope if it's Khan he doesn't move straight up to Welterweight.

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Post  Diego408 Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:06 pm

GrantZilla wrote:I have zero problems with the rankings, just like to see a legit Champ crownd.

+1 as long as one of Khan, Alexander and Bradley prove theyre the best from the group.
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Post  UBeeg9cats Thu Dec 16, 2010 10:31 am

I have no problem with the ratings but I had to defend my boy Alexander after he was getting put down some. I think I would have it: Bradley, Khan, Alexander, Kotelnik, Maidana, Zab, Peterson, Ortiz, Urango, and Mabuza.

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Post  Guest Thu Dec 16, 2010 10:54 am

UBeeg9cats (Thu Dec 16, 2010 2:31 pm) wrote:I have no problem with the ratings but I had to defend my boy Alexander after he was getting put down some. I think I would have it: Bradley, Khan, Alexander, Kotelnik, Maidana, Zab, Peterson, Ortiz, Urango, and Mabuza.
...very intelligent rankings.good indeed.

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