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Post  Guest Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:30 am

THE RING CHAMPIONSHIP

Good day to you Nigel! Just wanted to get your thoughts on why you think The Ring belt has not been received universally by fighters, reporters, and fans alike. Thanks. – Fleetwood, St. Louis, MO.

Fleetwood,

The Ring’s championship policy is very popular with fans and fighters. The vast majority of fans like it because they know that if a fighter wears aRing belt, he is the legitimate world champion. In recent months, Nonito Donaire, Carl Froch, Andre Ward, Timothy Bradley, and Ricky Burns have all expressed publicly their desire to win The Ring championship. This makes sense because The Ring charges no sanctioning fee (which can run into the hundreds of thousands of dollars) and does not attempt to dictate who they fight by forcing them to fight so-called mandatory challengers. Our philosophy is that the marketplace should make the fights, not alphabet organizations, or The Ring.

Our problems have been with promoters, managers, TV executives, and media outlets. Many (but not all) promoters and managers do not like the fact that The Ring doesn’t play the ratings game. In other words, they can’t maneuver a fighter up the rankings (by methods fair and/or foul) and be guaranteed a title shot. I recall a promoter, whose name will remain private because it was a private conversation, being very enthusiastic about The Ring’s championship policy until I explained that we do not strip champions of their titles or force mandatories. That ended the conversation and he never called me again.

While ESPN and the popular ESPN2 boxing series Friday Night Fights have been totally supportive from Day One, many media outlets have not. I believe jealousy is the number-one reason for this, although I think there is a minority that has a genuine philosophical disagreement.

http://ringtv.craveonline.com/blog/167783-ask-the-editor

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Post  gomez1012 Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:14 pm

I recall a promoter, whose name will remain private because it was a private conversation, being very enthusiastic about The Ring’s championship policy until I explained that we do not strip champions of their titles or force mandatories. That ended the conversation and he never called me again.

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Post  UBeeg9cats Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:26 pm

I read this the other day and it confirmed what myself and several others already thought was the case. Fans love the idea of a single champion defining the best. Every top level fighter is a competitive person and would love to be thought of as the best. I know many fighters would pick money over glory but it doesn't mean they lack competitiveness it just means they have more greed.
The problem is the promoters, managers, and really the tv execs. The tv execs generate the money so they have the real power. All of these entities use bogus trinkets for their short term gain. I think the media is fairly neutral in this "fight". Many media outlets talk about true champs but also mention the trinkets when describing a fight which I think is completely fair. I think if HBO turned the corner, it would be the first step in an arduous process of eliminating the problem.
I applaud Grant's efforts of sending complaints to HBO. I think HBO can be turned.

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Post  Guest Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:38 pm

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Ali wrote:
I recall a promoter, whose name will remain private because it was a private conversation, being very enthusiastic about The Ring’s championship policy until I explained that we do not strip champions of their titles or force mandatories. That ended the conversation and he never called me again.

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lol you wish.

Wonder who it was, I have a hunch the promoter has grey hair or uses hair dye.

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Post  flapanther2001 Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:38 pm

Grant sports wood in 5,4,3,2,1.............
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Post  Guest Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:40 pm

flapanther2001 wrote:Grant sports wood in 5,4,3,2,1.............


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Post  gomez1012 Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:43 pm

Ali wrote:
lol you wish.

Wonder who it was, I have a hunch the promoter has grey hair or uses hair dye.

It was Oscar after he bought it, wanted every GBP fighter to be ring champ
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Post  Guest Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:46 pm

gomez1012 wrote:
Ali wrote:
lol you wish.

Wonder who it was, I have a hunch the promoter has grey hair or uses hair dye.

It was Oscar after he bought it, wanted every GBP fighter to be ring champ

Oscar is a saint !!!!!

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Post  flapanther2001 Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:47 pm

Ali wrote:
gomez1012 wrote:
Ali wrote:
lol you wish.

Wonder who it was, I have a hunch the promoter has grey hair or uses hair dye.

It was Oscar after he bought it, wanted every GBP fighter to be ring champ

Oscar is the devil !!!!!
Fixed..... Twisted Evil
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Post  gomez1012 Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:54 pm

“We are very transparent with whatever we do with our fighters, and in a way, yes, we do want to take over,” De La Hoya continued. “Well, we don’t want to take control of boxing but we want to do the right thing for the sport. Have one (organization) running it like UFC. It’s very confusing with all these championship belts-my idea would be to have one champion in each division. There should be one heavyweight champion, not 20 like we have have now. Too much confusion. We have to weed out the bad and bring in the good.”
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Post  Guest Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:57 pm

Ali wrote:

The spanish version sounds so much better.


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Post  GrantZilla Thu Jun 23, 2011 4:08 pm

Al Bernstein sad that the reason they mention titles on Showtime is because they mean a lot to the fighters who fight for them.

That's well and good. If they refered to them as just that, titles and not Champions, there's no problem with that.

I got no problem with titles being seen as just that, titles, and stepping stones to a Championship fight.

But no, they got to refer to every trinket holder as a Champion.
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Post  flapanther2001 Thu Jun 23, 2011 4:28 pm

GrantZilla wrote:Al Bernstein sad that the reason they mention titles on Showtime is because they mean a lot to the fighters who fight for them.

That's well and good. If they refered to them as just that, titles and not Champions, there's no problem with that.

I got no problem with titles being seen as just that, titles, and stepping stones to a Championship fight.

But no, they got to refer to every trinket holder as a Champion.
LOL...Like when they said "Lucas Matthysse is fighting former world champion,Devon Alexander".
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Post  GrantZilla Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:03 pm

flapanther2001 wrote:LOL...Like when they said "Lucas Matthysse is fighting former world champion,Devon Alexander".

Exactly. If it was Lucas Matthysse is fighting former title holder,Devon Alexander I don't think anyone would have a problem with that.

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Post  gomez1012 Thu Jun 23, 2011 6:22 pm

GrantZilla wrote:
flapanther2001 wrote:LOL...Like when they said "Lucas Matthysse is fighting former world champion,Devon Alexander".

Exactly. If it was Lucas Matthysse is fighting former title holder,Devon Alexander I don't think anyone would have a problem with that.


Devon Alexander would

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Post  GrantZilla Thu Jun 23, 2011 6:26 pm

Fuck Alexander. He showed he wasn't a Champion against Bradley.

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Post  Guest Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:09 am

Alexander will get a chance for redemption tomorrow.

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Post  gomez1012 Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:17 pm

Ali wrote:Alexander will get a chance for redemption tomorrow.

He's going to get dropped twice as many times as Corley was vs the rat tailed Matthysse
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Post  flapanther2001 Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:58 pm

Ali wrote:Alexander will get a chance for redemption tomorrow.
The same way Duran got was redeemed when KTFO by Hearns!!!!
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