Andre Ward-Chad Dawson

I'd be fine with Ward vs. Dawson later in the year or early 2013 AFTER Ward has fought Bute.

I hope Showtime has options left on Ward because I'd pissed to see him jump ship to HBO without giving them the fight they signed Bute for.

i also would like ward-bute first.

dmar5143 wrote:i also would like ward-bute first.

if Froch beats Bute, then Ward just needs to move up to 175 for the Dawson fight. No need for a Ward/Froch rematch.

dawson -ward a boring fight.probably..dawson against anyone i think will be boring.it is what it is.hes boring.

captainanddew wrote:

dmar5143 wrote:i also would like ward-bute first.

if Froch beats Bute, then Ward just needs to move up to 175 for the Dawson fight. No need for a Ward/Froch rematch.

..yes true and there will be a bute-froch rematch also..

captainanddew wrote:

dmar5143 wrote:i also would like ward-bute first.

if Froch beats Bute, then Ward just needs to move up to 175 for the Dawson fight. No need for a Ward/Froch rematch.

I'd be fine with that as well, it makes sense unless Andre has the sadistic desire to give Kelly Pavlik a beatdown.

dmar5143 wrote:dawson -ward a boring fight.probably..dawson against anyone i think will be boring.it is what it is.hes boring.

dawson is passive. His fights against Tarver and Johnson made me angry.

he would come out win 3 rounds. Come round 4, he would be content to move and move and not take any damage and just kill a round. Then later in the fight he did the same thing.

Sometimes within rounds he is content to just not do jack shit. Against Tarver there was rounds that totally pissed me off. He would land the jab and some straight lefts in the first 2 mins of the rounds. Nothing to hurt Tarver, but decent shots. Then last minute of the rounds he would just kill the clock because he had the round in the bank already. So frustrating to watch.

Hagler's Bald Head wrote:

captainanddew wrote:

dmar5143 wrote:i also would like ward-bute first.

if Froch beats Bute, then Ward just needs to move up to 175 for the Dawson fight. No need for a Ward/Froch rematch.

I'd be fine with that as well, it makes sense unless Andre has the sadistic desire to give Kelly Pavlik a beatdown.

if Pavlik's people let him face anyone elite at 168 anytime soon, then they are idiots. Would be so much smarter to take this comeback very slow. Allow Kessler, Bute, Froch, Ward, to all get to 175, so that the division is weaker and then he could actually beat someone near the top.

captainanddew wrote:

Hagler's Bald Head wrote:

captainanddew wrote:

dmar5143 wrote:i also would like ward-bute first.

if Froch beats Bute, then Ward just needs to move up to 175 for the Dawson fight. No need for a Ward/Froch rematch.

I'd be fine with that as well, it makes sense unless Andre has the sadistic desire to give Kelly Pavlik a beatdown.

if Pavlik's people let him face anyone elite at 168 anytime soon, then they are idiots. Would be so much smarter to take this comeback very slow. Allow Kessler, Bute, Froch, Ward, to all get to 175, so that the division is weaker and then he could actually beat someone near the top.

Kessler is already moving to LHW.

Froch makes 168lb easily I don't see him moving up unless the right offer presents it self.

Bute will move up eventually.

Has Andre Dirrell moved up ? I always felt he was way too big for SMW.

Hagler's Bald Head wrote:

captainanddew wrote:

Hagler's Bald Head wrote:

captainanddew wrote:

dmar5143 wrote:i also would like ward-bute first.

if Froch beats Bute, then Ward just needs to move up to 175 for the Dawson fight. No need for a Ward/Froch rematch.

I'd be fine with that as well, it makes sense unless Andre has the sadistic desire to give Kelly Pavlik a beatdown.

if Pavlik's people let him face anyone elite at 168 anytime soon, then they are idiots. Would be so much smarter to take this comeback very slow. Allow Kessler, Bute, Froch, Ward, to all get to 175, so that the division is weaker and then he could actually beat someone near the top.

Kessler is already moving to LHW.

Froch makes 168lb easily I don't see him moving up unless the right offer presents it self.

Bute will move up eventually.

Has Andre Dirrell moved up ? I always felt he was way too big for SMW.

Bute started his career with fights where he weighed 173 pounds. To me it seems that he started as an actual Light Heavy and those just werent' fights above the 168 limit (as is often the case, when no title guys who are campaigning at 168 will agree to 170 pounds as the limit).

Bute won't stay long at SMW if Ward moves up, there won't be alot of fights left in the division that will get him on American tv.

And there will always be the lure of a Pascal fight at LHW, that fight would sell out quickly in Canada.

Ali, again what part of Cloud-Pascal fighting each other and Froch-Bute fighting each other do you not understand?

Who should Ward and Dawson fight then if not each other?

I will not be shocked if Cleverly ends up fighting Hopkins over Dawson.

Ward easily beats Dawson.

GrantZilla wrote:Ali, again what part of Cloud-Pascal fighting each other and Froch-Bute fighting each other do you not understand?

Who should Ward and Dawson fight then if not each other?

I will not be shocked if Cleverly ends up fighting Hopkins over Dawson.

Froch vs Bute is next month, that hardly leaves Ward sitting around twiddling his thumbs.

Cloud vs. Pascal isn't set in stone yet, but it doesn't mean Chad can't unify while he waits for the winner.

Hagler's Bald Head wrote:Froch vs Bute is next month, that hardly leaves Ward sitting around twiddling his thumbs.

Cloud vs. Pascal isn't set in stone yet, but it doesn't mean Chad can't unify while he waits for the winner.

Ward hasn't fought since December. Depending how the fight goes, there is a rematch clause in Froch-Bute. So unless one of them beats the other so badily they don't ask for it, they'll be a rematch. Say Bute wins and Froch doesn't ask for a rematch. He'll want atleast 3 months prep time for Ward. So Ward will be in-active for almost a year.

And a shocker to nobody except maybe you Ali, they are still talking Hops-Cleverly over Dawson-Cleverly:

http://tinyurl.com/c7xlrpa

GrantZilla wrote:

Hagler's Bald Head wrote:Froch vs Bute is next month, that hardly leaves Ward sitting around twiddling his thumbs.

Cloud vs. Pascal isn't set in stone yet, but it doesn't mean Chad can't unify while he waits for the winner.

Ward hasn't fought since December. Depending how the fight goes, there is a rematch clause in Froch-Bute. So unless one of them beats the other so badily they don't ask for it, they'll be a rematch. Say Bute wins and Froch doesn't ask for a rematch. He'll want atleast 3 months prep time for Ward. So Ward will be in-active for almost a year.

And a shocker to nobody except maybe you Ali, they are still talking Hops-Cleverly over Dawson-Cleverly:

http://tinyurl.com/c7xlrpa

Ward has earned a rest after the Super Six.

To my knowledge there is only going to be a rematch if Froch pulls off the upset. It would be pretty pointless to have a rematch in Canada if Bute beats Froch next month.

Despite Hopkins age and attitude he's still an extremely risky fight for Cleverly but Frank needs this sort of opponent to keep Nathan happy now. And he also needs a big opponent to try and lure more people to subscribe to his crappy pay channel Boxnantion.

Ali wrote:

GrantZilla wrote:

Hagler's Bald Head wrote:Froch vs Bute is next month, that hardly leaves Ward sitting around twiddling his thumbs.

Cloud vs. Pascal isn't set in stone yet, but it doesn't mean Chad can't unify while he waits for the winner.

Ward hasn't fought since December. Depending how the fight goes, there is a rematch clause in Froch-Bute. So unless one of them beats the other so badily they don't ask for it, they'll be a rematch. Say Bute wins and Froch doesn't ask for a rematch. He'll want atleast 3 months prep time for Ward. So Ward will be in-active for almost a year.

And a shocker to nobody except maybe you Ali, they are still talking Hops-Cleverly over Dawson-Cleverly:

http://tinyurl.com/c7xlrpa

Ward has earned a rest after the Super Six.

To my knowledge there is only going to be a rematch if Froch pulls off the upset. It would be pretty pointless to have a rematch in Canada if Bute beats Froch next month.

Despite Hopkins age and attitude he's still an extremely risky fight for Cleverly but Frank needs this sort of opponent to keep Nathan happy now. And he also needs a big opponent to try and lure more people to subscribe to his crappy pay channel Boxnantion.

why is boxnation crappy??? Doesn't it show alot of fights???

HBO and Showtime in the US isn't cheap. Boxing, dexter, homeland on showtime is all I watch. Bill maher, boardwalk empire, game of thrones, and boxing is all I watch on HBO. These motherfuckers fleece me for the amount of hours I watch. Their movies suck-crappy movies and they replay the same few movies into the damn ground.

Poor commentators, awful production qualities, no HD and the fact it's more expensive than ESPN.

Ali wrote:Poor commentators, awful production qualities, no HD and the fact it's more expensive than ESPN.

espn is part of cable packages here.

captainanddew wrote:

Ali wrote:Poor commentators, awful production qualities, no HD and the fact it's more expensive than ESPN.

espn is part of cable packages here.

ESPN is a subscriber channel over here, it's £5 a month for ESPN, ESPN America and ESPN Classic, the only reason I have it is because it's the UK home of the UFC. It's a great channel if you love your sports though, it shows some premier league games, NBA, MLB, NHL and alot of other soccer from around the world.

Boxnation is £10 a month. I refuse to order it because it's poor and because my Satellite bill is already about £80 a month.

Ali wrote:

captainanddew wrote:

Ali wrote:Poor commentators, awful production qualities, no HD and the fact it's more expensive than ESPN.

espn is part of cable packages here.

ESPN is a subscriber channel over here, it's £5 a month for ESPN, ESPN America and ESPN Classic, the only reason I have it is because it's the UK home of the UFC. It's a great channel if you love your sports though, it shows some premier league games, NBA, MLB, NHL and alot of other soccer from around the world.

Boxnation is £10 a month. I refuse to order it because it's poor and because my Satellite bill is already about £80 a month.

that much a month? WOW. Does that include internet?? I get internet, home phone, and cable with HBO, Showtime, Cinemax, The Movie Channel, and Stars, for 110 dollars in Richmond, Virginia.

captainanddew wrote:

Ali wrote:

captainanddew wrote:

Ali wrote:Poor commentators, awful production qualities, no HD and the fact it's more expensive than ESPN.

espn is part of cable packages here.

ESPN is a subscriber channel over here, it's £5 a month for ESPN, ESPN America and ESPN Classic, the only reason I have it is because it's the UK home of the UFC. It's a great channel if you love your sports though, it shows some premier league games, NBA, MLB, NHL and alot of other soccer from around the world.

Boxnation is £10 a month. I refuse to order it because it's poor and because my Satellite bill is already about £80 a month.

that much a month? WOW. Does that include internet?? I get internet, home phone, and cable with HBO, Showtime, Cinemax, The Movie Channel, and Stars, for 110 dollars in Richmond, Virginia.

No we looked into getting Sky broadband but it wasn't available in my area.

My bill is quite expensive because we have two HD DVR devices, one for the living room and one in my room, plus we get almost all of the channels.

dmar5143 wrote:read what grant said.hes correct.cloud is fighting pasqual and if its ward hes a better fighter then thoses 2 guys.again is he the real champ or not.if you say not then your insulting every intelligent poster on here.that corrects.and screw a spacebar.i cant type and it takes time to do this.
either you respect the man who beat the man as the champ.if not then watch mma or ufc or whatever that bullshit is and leave comments to boxing fans who actualy know what there talking about..

This is the funniest thing written in this entire thread. If you all missed it it's comic gold. Thank you Dmar. I've gotten used to your unique posting style.

hardcorebee24 wrote:

dmar5143 wrote:read what grant said.hes correct.cloud is fighting pasqual and if its ward hes a better fighter then thoses 2 guys.again is he the real champ or not.if you say not then your insulting every intelligent poster on here.that corrects.and screw a spacebar.i cant type and it takes time to do this.
either you respect the man who beat the man as the champ.if not then watch mma or ufc or whatever that bullshit is and leave comments to boxing fans who actualy know what there talking about..

This is the funniest thing written in this entire thread. If you all missed it it's comic gold. Thank you Dmar. I've gotten used to your unique posting style.

I got used to it back at ESPN. I dont really notice it anymore to be honest.

In September for Andre Wards 168 lineal title. Looks like Dawson is dropping weight.