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Post  GrantZilla Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:54 am

Huck, THE RING’s No. 1-rated cruiserweight as of last week, has decided to move up to heavyweight and face Alexander Povetkin for what the WBA calls its “regular” title on Feb. 25 in Stuttgart, Germany.

Huck reportedly has said he might return to the cruiserweight division for a rematch with Denis Lebedev. And he apparently retains his WBO cruiserweight title, at least for the moment. However, he also has said he wants to fight one of the Klitschko brothers if he can get past Povetkin.

In other words, there’s no telling what the future holds for Huck. All we know for sure is that he’s out of the cruiserweight picture for the time being.

Meanwhile, Hernandez and Cunningham –THE RING’s Nos. 2- and 3-rated cruiserweights, respectively – are scheduled to fight one another in a rematch on Feb. 4 in Frankfurt.

Thus, we were faced with a decision to make. Do we keep Huck at No. 1 because he might return to the cruiserweight division depending on what happens on Feb. 25? Or do we follow his lead and allow Hernandez and Cunningham to fight for the vacant RING championship?

THE RING Editorial Board decided that the latter made more sense. Huck will be removed from the cruiserweight ratings, and Hernandez and Cunningham will be elevated to Nos. 1 and 2, which positions them to fight for the magazine’s title.

Huck’s future is in his own hands. If he beats No. 2-rated Povetkin, he almost certainly will enter the heavyweight ratings and probably wouldn’t move back down because he can make more money as a heavyweight.

And if he loses and chooses to return to cruiserweight, he can expect to re-enter the 200-pound ratings if he wins his first fight back.


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Post  Diego408 Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:38 pm

USS is and has been the man of this division for years, he just never had a lineal belt to show it.
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Post  NJBeatdown86 Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:59 pm

Hopefully USS gets the nod this time, he got robbed in the last fight.
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Post  dmar5143 Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:17 pm

so the ring is now acting like a commision.sort of anyway.im not interested at all in that division but if the guy said himself im no longer going to fight in that division then ring would be right in there choice.did the guy actualy say that..since i dont care for the division and never have i realy dont know what he said.
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Post  UBeeg9cats Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:36 pm

I like this. I believe Ring contacted Huck and he was indecisive about a cruiser return. I believe Povetkin will win but if Huck pulls it out, he will never go back to cruiser. I think Povetkin sends him packing somewhat easily. I think of Cunningham as the top guy and then he "lost" the last fight. This is a legit Ring belt fight for me. I also liked their decisions about removing Donaire from the bantam rankings and having Froch as the 2nd ranked super middle instead of Bute. Moreno-Mares should happen soon and will now be for the Ring belt. The Super 6 champ deserved to be lineal champ. Bute is legit but his competition was not.

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Post  SlickMoney Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:02 am

Diego408 wrote:USS is and has been the man of this division for years, he just never had a lineal belt to show it.

scratch

Dude almost got iced in the first round his last fight.
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Post  SlickMoney Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:04 am

dmar5143 wrote:so the ring is now acting like a commision.sort of anyway.im not interested at all in that division but if the guy said himself im no longer going to fight in that division then ring would be right in there choice.did the guy actualy say that..since i dont care for the division and never have i realy dont know what he said.


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They pulled the trigger way too quick here. Huck should not be taking out of the cruiser rankings this quickly.
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Post  UBeeg9cats Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:37 am

SlickMoney wrote:
dmar5143 wrote:so the ring is now acting like a commision.sort of anyway.im not interested at all in that division but if the guy said himself im no longer going to fight in that division then ring would be right in there choice.did the guy actualy say that..since i dont care for the division and never have i realy dont know what he said.


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They pulled the trigger way too quick here. Huck should not be taking out of the cruiser rankings this quickly.

Do you realize they contacted Huck and asked him his future plans? He was noncommittal so they decided to pull him under the provision he would jump high in the rankings with a single win back in the division. There is NO WAY he goes back down with a win against Povetkin. I'm not convinced he comes back if he is competitive at all with Povetkin. There is too much money at heavy to return for peanuts at cruiser. I don't like divisions to be held hostage by guys venturing out from it.

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Post  SlickMoney Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:06 am

[quote="UBeeg9cats"

Do you realize they contacted Huck and asked him his future plans? He was noncommittal so they decided to pull him under the provision he would jump high in the rankings with a single win back in the division. There is NO WAY he goes back down with a win against Povetkin. I'm not convinced he comes back if he is competitive at all with Povetkin. There is too much money at heavy to return for peanuts at cruiser. I don't like divisions to be held hostage by guys venturing out from it.

Why should he commit to anything? He's about to test Heavyweight. He doesnt know how thats going to go. If this was Huck's 2nd straight fight at Heavyweight then i'd agree dropping him out of the cruiser rankings. But 1 fight is not enough when a lot of fighters do it.

Did Ring drop Tim Bradley out of the 140 lb. rankings when he went up to welter and fought Abregu? Add that Bradley called out Manny, who has a 147 pound title, after the fight. Going by Ring's logic in the Huck case, Bradley should've been dropped out of the rankings.

Maidana and Alexander are fighting each other at welterweight so they, like Huck, should be disappearing from Ring's 140 rankings.
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Post  GrantZilla Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:58 am

Ring isn't like a commission since they do not fill vacancies just to collect sanctioning fees.

I like that they are being more pro-active about filling vancancies. All you hear is about all the Ring vacancies. Cruiser been vacant since Adamek left in 2009.

Cunningham already spanked Huck, and he was ranked # 1 before he got robbed. Huck has had plenty of time and opportunity to rematch Cunningham, and never has. No point on waiting for him.

Like the situation at Featherweight, where got Gamboa at # 1 and John at # 2. John is never going to fight Gambo. Ever. Hell, he's never going to leave his country, and no legit contender is going to fight there and get robbed.

I'd have no problem if Gomboa fought the winner of the Salido-Lopez fight for the Ring belt.

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Post  Diego408 Thu Jan 12, 2012 5:33 pm

SlickMoney wrote:
Diego408 wrote:USS is and has been the man of this division for years, he just never had a lineal belt to show it.

scratch

Dude almost got iced in the first round his last fight.
He got up and won the rest of the rounds and was robbed.
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Post  UBeeg9cats Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:26 pm

SlickMoney wrote:
UBeeg9cats wrote:

Do you realize they contacted Huck and asked him his future plans? He was noncommittal so they decided to pull him under the provision he would jump high in the rankings with a single win back in the division. There is NO WAY he goes back down with a win against Povetkin. I'm not convinced he comes back if he is competitive at all with Povetkin. There is too much money at heavy to return for peanuts at cruiser. I don't like divisions to be held hostage by guys venturing out from it.

Why should he commit to anything? He's about to test Heavyweight. He doesnt know how thats going to go. If this was Huck's 2nd straight fight at Heavyweight then i'd agree dropping him out of the cruiser rankings. But 1 fight is not enough when a lot of fighters do it.

Did Ring drop Tim Bradley out of the 140 lb. rankings when he went up to welter and fought Abregu? Add that Bradley called out Manny, who has a 147 pound title, after the fight. Going by Ring's logic in the Huck case, Bradley should've been dropped out of the rankings.

Maidana and Alexander are fighting each other at welterweight so they, like Huck, should be disappearing from Ring's 140 rankings.

I don't think Ring contacted Bradley and I know Timmy made it pretty clear that was a one fight off testing the waters fight. Only way Tim would have stayed up was for Pac or Money. They make him some cash. Almost any fight at heavy makes more than any fight at cruiser and that's why good cruisers leave quickly. I agree that my boy Alexander should be gone from the rankings because he has made clear his intentions but have not heard Maidana say it yet.

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Post  GrantZilla Tue Jan 24, 2012 3:14 am

SlickMoney wrote:Maidana and Alexander are fighting each other at welterweight so they, like Huck, should be disappearing from Ring's 140 rankings.

Junior welterweight: Marcos Maidana (No. 4 last week) and Devon Alexander (No. 5 last week) drop out of the 140-pound ratings because they’ve moved up in weight. They’re scheduled to fight one another at welterweight on Feb. 25 in St. Louis

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Post  Guest Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:30 pm

GrantZilla wrote:
SlickMoney wrote:Maidana and Alexander are fighting each other at welterweight so they, like Huck, should be disappearing from Ring's 140 rankings.

Junior welterweight: Marcos Maidana (No. 4 last week) and Devon Alexander (No. 5 last week) drop out of the 140-pound ratings because they’ve moved up in weight. They’re scheduled to fight one another at welterweight on Feb. 25 in St. Louis

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I like the fact Ring are being more pro active now and not sitting around waiting for things to fall in place.

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Post  shakefree Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:02 am

admittedly my opinion could be considered bias(i tipped hernandez),but no way do i think the first bout was a robbery.the stoppage was soft,no doubt,but i think given when it was stopped a result either way was possible.to say cunningham won every round after the first,imo,shows either bias,blindness or incompetence.i still thought hernandez was ahead,but if he'd lost i wouldn't scream robbery.it's the most abused word in boxing nowadays.
as i said the stoppage was weak,imo,but i'm not a doctor.the good thing is this will be settled in the ring.whoever wins,i just hope this is decided by the fighters,not outside influences

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Post  SlickMoney Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:20 am

GrantZilla wrote:
SlickMoney wrote:Maidana and Alexander are fighting each other at welterweight so they, like Huck, should be disappearing from Ring's 140 rankings.

Junior welterweight: Marcos Maidana (No. 4 last week) and Devon Alexander (No. 5 last week) drop out of the 140-pound ratings because they’ve moved up in weight. They’re scheduled to fight one another at welterweight on Feb. 25 in St. Louis

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Jumping the gun. Makes no sense to drop guys from rankings for only having 1 fight above their respective weight class.

They're just trying to find quicker ways to had out their belt that only a handful of ppl care about.
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Post  GrantZilla Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:44 am

SlickMoney wrote:Jumping the gun. Makes no sense to drop guys from rankings for only having 1 fight above their respective weight class.

They're just trying to find quicker ways to had out their belt that only a handful of ppl care about.

Whatever man. # 1 and # 2 at Jr Welter now is Bitch Bradley and Peterson. You think those two are going to remach anytime soon? Get out of here.

People like you laughed at all the vacancies, then you accuse the Ring being more proactive to fill vacancies.

If there was a perfect system in boxing, you'd still find something to complain about.
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