Will JCC jr fight Martinez next?

After the fight he said he wants the fight next! Will he do it?

No, because he broke out the same excuse he always hides behind---- "it's up to my promoter".

Chavez Jr and Arum have a good cop/bad cop routine worked out. Chavez claims he wants the toughest fights, but says he will comply with whom ever Arum picks. Arum then shields Chavez by taking the blame for yet another handpicked opponent.

Chavez saves face and looks like a hero to his fans "I want Martinez next. I want to prove I'm the best in the world. I'll fight who ever my promoter lines up."

It's a farce.

No and to be honest I don't see why there should be any rush for the fight, Martinez has plenty of contenders to defend against while Jr keeps on learning the ropes.

Hagler's Bald Head wrote:No and to be honest I don't see why there should be any rush for the fight, Martinez has plenty of contenders to defend against while Jr keeps on learning the ropes.

I agree. Jr is not ready and is not even the top challenger in the division!

Hagler's Bald Head wrote:No and to be honest I don't see why there should be any rush for the fight, Martinez has plenty of contenders to defend against while Jr keeps on learning the ropes.

I completely disagree. If this is the case, Chavez should be stripped. Don't comply to TR boxings management. Chavez is a so called "champion" so this guy has to fight his mandatory (Martinez), no matter how unready he is.

Diego408 wrote:

Hagler's Bald Head wrote:No and to be honest I don't see why there should be any rush for the fight, Martinez has plenty of contenders to defend against while Jr keeps on learning the ropes.

I completely disagree. If this is the case, Chavez should be stripped. Don't comply to TR boxings management. Chavez is a so called "champion" so this guy has to fight his mandatory (Martinez), no matter how unready he is.

Hell yes he should be stripped. But we all know he is not the real champ. That's why he really doesn't need to fight sergio yet. I think he gives Sergio a tougher fight than what people think but he's not ready.

Soonermark890 wrote:

Diego408 wrote:

Hagler's Bald Head wrote:No and to be honest I don't see why there should be any rush for the fight, Martinez has plenty of contenders to defend against while Jr keeps on learning the ropes.

I completely disagree. If this is the case, Chavez should be stripped. Don't comply to TR boxings management. Chavez is a so called "champion" so this guy has to fight his mandatory (Martinez), no matter how unready he is.

Hell yes he should be stripped. But we all know he is not the real champ. That's why he really doesn't need to fight sergio yet. I think he gives Sergio a tougher fight than what people think but he's not ready.

I'll agree with you on that. I don't think Martinez will blow him out how we all figured at first. I believe the fight will be a war. However Chavez doesn't hit hard enough or doesn't have the speed to beat Martinez. Martinez will Beat Chavez similar to how he did with Pavlik. With constant moving, but the thing is Martinez won't respect Chavez because he can't punch for shit.

Diego408 wrote:

Soonermark890 wrote:

Diego408 wrote:

Hagler's Bald Head wrote:No and to be honest I don't see why there should be any rush for the fight, Martinez has plenty of contenders to defend against while Jr keeps on learning the ropes.

I completely disagree. If this is the case, Chavez should be stripped. Don't comply to TR boxings management. Chavez is a so called "champion" so this guy has to fight his mandatory (Martinez), no matter how unready he is.

Hell yes he should be stripped. But we all know he is not the real champ. That's why he really doesn't need to fight sergio yet. I think he gives Sergio a tougher fight than what people think but he's not ready.

I'll agree with you on that. I don't think Martinez will blow him out how we all figured at first. I believe the fight will be a war. However Chavez doesn't hit hard enough or doesn't have the speed to beat Martinez. Martinez schools Beats Chavez similar to how he did with Pavlik. The constant moving, but the thing is Martinez won't respect Chavez because he can't punch for shit.

What I think will give Sergio problems is the bodywork. But yes Sergio is just too damn athletic all around for him. This really is one of the best fights to be made in the future.

Stop with the "he's not ready" shit! When will he be ready? When he's 35?

Was Davey Moore "ready" for Duran? I'm tired of saying this...if he wears a belt and is called Champion, there is no more learning process!!!!! That is what the coming up system is for. He should have fought these bums before any title shot. He no longer has the right to refuse his challengers.

GrantZilla wrote:Stop with the "he's not ready" shit! When will he be ready? When he's 35?

Thank you. I'm glad I'm not the only one. Honsetly some of you guys sound more like chavez' promoter than fans. 8 years as a pro and he's still not ready?

flapanther2001 wrote:Was Davey Moore "ready" for Duran? I'm tired of saying this...if he wears a belt and is called Champion, there is no more learning process!!!!! That is what the coming up system is for. He should have fought these bums before any title shot. He no longer has the right to refuse his challengers.

...i agree.lets see here if martinez losses hes no longer a mandatory but we will substitute a guy which some of the wbc folks says should retire .he got his ass beat bad 3 out of his last 4 fights and the other one a tune up against a slug he looked awfull.great qualifications to sanction that as a title fight.i dont know whats more bogus.the wbc or its 5 championship belts per division.

GrantZilla wrote:Stop with the "he's not ready" shit! When will he be ready? When he's 35?

he's only 25 and he never had any amateur experience. You said that Seth is not ready for the kilts! And he is 29! The kid is still developing.

Canvas wrote:

GrantZilla wrote:Stop with the "he's not ready" shit! When will he be ready? When he's 35?

Thank you. I'm glad I'm not the only one. Honsetly some of you guys sound more like chavez' promoter than fans. 8 years as a pro and he's still not ready?

I really don't think he is ready. Honestly he still looks like a developing fighter to me.

Soonermark890 wrote:

Canvas wrote:

GrantZilla wrote:Stop with the "he's not ready" shit! When will he be ready? When he's 35?

Thank you. I'm glad I'm not the only one. Honsetly some of you guys sound more like chavez' promoter than fans. 8 years as a pro and he's still not ready?

I really don't think he is ready. Honestly he still looks like a developing fighter to me.

Then would you agree to strip him? Your the one who thinks he's a developing fighter. Developing fighter arent* usually champions for a reason.

He's a permanent "developing fighter". It will never happen unless Arum realizes he can't squeeze any more $$$ out of him and also can't make the Canelo fight.

Soonermark890 wrote:I really don't think he is ready. Honestly he still looks like a developing fighter to me.

Then he has no business fighting on HBO. HBO needs to put their foot down and reject a match-up against Margs.

Best Fights/No Rights

Diego408 wrote:

Soonermark890 wrote:

Canvas wrote:

GrantZilla wrote:Stop with the "he's not ready" shit! When will he be ready? When he's 35?

Thank you. I'm glad I'm not the only one. Honsetly some of you guys sound more like chavez' promoter than fans. 8 years as a pro and he's still not ready?

I really don't think he is ready. Honestly he still looks like a developing fighter to me.

Then would you agree to strip him? Your the one who thinks he's a developing fighter. Developing fighter are usually champions for a reason.

yes if he doesn't fight Sergio strip him. But if I'm his manager I give up the belt and fight another top 5-7 type guy. Then move up to a top 5 guy. Then on to Sergio. No need to rush him in there with that caliber of opponent when he really hasn't tested the top 5 yet.

GrantZilla wrote:

Soonermark890 wrote:I really don't think he is ready. Honestly he still looks like a developing fighter to me.

Then he has no business fighting on HBO. HBO needs to put their foot down and reject a match-up against Margs.

Best Fights/No Rights

yeah that fight is bullshit. Jcc needs to step up to at least a top 10 guy in his next fight.

This is funny shit. People been saying "he's not ready," and "no need to rush him," for over five years now.

GrantZilla wrote:This is funny shit. People been saying "he's not ready," and "no need to rush him," for over five years now.

so I guess he was ready at age 20 to fight Sergio after 25 fights and no amateur experience?

Soonermark890 wrote:

GrantZilla wrote:This is funny shit. People been saying "he's not ready," and "no need to rush him," for over five years now.

so I guess he was ready at age 20 to fight Sergio after 25 fights and no amateur experience?

He's hasn't gotten any better nor will he get any better. He is what he is. A over protected B-level fighter.

GrantZilla wrote:

Soonermark890 wrote:

GrantZilla wrote:This is funny shit. People been saying "he's not ready," and "no need to rush him," for over five years now.

so I guess he was ready at age 20 to fight Sergio after 25 fights and no amateur experience?

He's hasn't gotten any better nor will he get any better. He is what he is. A over protected B-level fighter.

he has improved a lot since he was 20 years old.

Soonermark890 wrote:he has improved a lot since he was 20 years old.

Not realy. His defense sucks and so does his boxing skills. In fact, he has no boxing skills. He benifits from out weighing his opponents by 20 plus pounds and throwing a lot of punches.