Top Rank talking directly to Mayweather without Golden Boy ?

Guest Sun Nov 27, 2011 9:16 pm

Top Rank's CEO Bob Arum is currently negotiating with at least two investment groups who are interested in staging a welterweight mega-unification between champions Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather Jr. According to Arum, Pacquiao's agent, Michale Koncz, is also involved in the negotiations.

Arum indicates that one of the investment groups is talking directly with Mayweather, without the involvement of Golden Boy Promotions. Mayweather is a promotional free agent and usually hires Golden Boy to co-promote his events.

“[The group] is also in talks with Mayweather. Mayweather is going solo,” said Arum to the Manila Bulletin.

Arum told the paper that Mayweather reportedly doesn't want Golden Boy to be involved in the ongoing negotiations. Despite reports to the contrary, Arum says he is “seriously exploring a Mayweather fight.”

In an earlier BoxingScene news brief, it was reported that Koncz recently visited Mayweather's Las Vegas gym and spoke with the fighter. Mayweather's adviser, Leonard Ellerbe, denied that any business related matters were discussed between Koncz and Mayweather. It is hard for many to believe that Koncz traveled, from Los Angeles to Las Vegas, to visit Mayweather's gym for a photo-op.

Meanwhile, Top Rank's Arum has a smile on his face. The early pay-per-view figures for Pacquiao's trilogy fight with Juan Manuel Marquez, which took place on November 12th at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, is going to generate the Filipino star's biggest buyrate number. Arum expects a minimum buy figure of 1.4 million.

http://www.boxingscene.com/arums-mayweather-pacquiao-deal-block-golden-boy--46504

NJBeatdown86 Sun Nov 27, 2011 9:40 pm

Both sides have bullshitted the public so many times, it's impossible to believe anything that either side says.

**GrantZilla** Sun Nov 27, 2011 9:41 pm

NJBeatdown86 wrote:Both sides have bullshitted the public so many times, it's impossible to believe anything that either side says.

Yup

Guest Sun Nov 27, 2011 9:49 pm

The sooner Todd Debouf takes over Top Rank the better.

Schaeffer might be goofy but he's the rock that holds Golden Boy together.

**Soonermark890** Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:28 pm

We will see. I wonder what will hold up the fight this time?

Gumby Mon Nov 28, 2011 12:43 pm

I think cutting out Golden Boy could potentially benefit both sides. Arum and Floyd could get more money that way.

Guest Mon Nov 28, 2011 2:08 pm

Gumby wrote:I think cutting out Golden Boy could potentially benefit both sides. Arum and Floyd could get more money that way.

Maybe but it won't benefit the long term "truce" between Top Rank and Golden Boy, we need both companies to make fights together for the good of the sport.

Shaun Mon Nov 28, 2011 2:24 pm

It is an interesting point though. Why should Floyd go through Golden Boy when he can go directly through Top Rank?

Guest Mon Nov 28, 2011 2:31 pm

Shaun wrote:It is an interesting point though. Why should Floyd go through Golden Boy when he can go directly through Top Rank?

Floyd doesn't need to, he's a free agent. He's used them in the past to handle his deals.

Shaun Mon Nov 28, 2011 2:33 pm

Hagler's Bald Head wrote:
Shaun wrote:It is an interesting point though. Why should Floyd go through Golden Boy when he can go directly through Top Rank?

Floyd doesn't need to, he's a free agent. He's used them in the past to handle his deals.

It's interesting that Golden Boy claims Floyd to be their own, when really he isn't at all. It seemed at one point a few years ago, Golden Boy was neck and neck with Top Rank. I don't get that vibe at all anymore. I feel that Top Rank is strides ahead.

Guest Mon Nov 28, 2011 2:42 pm

Shaun wrote:
Hagler's Bald Head wrote:
Shaun wrote:It is an interesting point though. Why should Floyd go through Golden Boy when he can go directly through Top Rank?

Floyd doesn't need to, he's a free agent. He's used them in the past to handle his deals.

It's interesting that Golden Boy claims Floyd to be their own, when really he isn't at all. It seemed at one point a few years ago, Golden Boy was neck and neck with Top Rank. I don't get that vibe at all anymore. I feel that Top Rank is strides ahead.

It doesn't help when your president is around gallivanting in woman's outfits.

**GrantZilla** Mon Nov 28, 2011 3:15 pm

Shaun wrote:
It's interesting that Golden Boy claims Floyd to be their own, when really he isn't at all.

He pretty much was though. GB bailed him out with his tax problems and loaned him money. So he was on the hook with them.

Sounds like he's paid them back though.

Guest Mon Nov 28, 2011 3:17 pm

GrantZilla wrote:
Shaun wrote:
It's interesting that Golden Boy claims Floyd to be their own, when really he isn't at all.

He pretty much was though. GB bailed him out with his tax problems and loaned him money. So he was on the hook with them.

Sounds like he's paid them back though.

I never knew that, when was this ?

**GrantZilla** Mon Nov 28, 2011 3:28 pm

In 2009 when first got hit by the IRS and had a lien on his house, and was being sued by his garbage man for not paying.

GB helped him out with his unpaid debts and representation against the IRS. Then all of a sudden, he comes out of retirment to fight JMM, a GB fighter.

Hauser and others reported on GB bailing him out.

Shaun Mon Nov 28, 2011 3:41 pm

GrantZilla wrote:In 2009 when first got hit by yjr IRS and had a lien on his house, and was being sued by his garbage for not paying.

GB helped him out with his unpaid debts and representation against the IRS. Then all of a sudden, he comes out of retirment to fight JMM, a GB fighter.

Hauser and others reported on GB bailing him out.

Floyd is quite an ungrateful person then. He has pics of Oscar in drag on his twitter account.

nano212 Mon Nov 28, 2011 4:05 pm

So if Arum and Floyd are trying to make a deal and cut GBP out of the promotion and the $$$ that will come with the event, but fail to make a deal for the May 5th date would and should Oscar and GBP put their "cash cow" Canelo or Khan in with PBF on the May 5th?? If I was Oscar I would say fuck you to PBF and let him try and get a fight with another TR fighter!

**gomez1012** Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:52 pm

Shaun wrote:It is an interesting point though. Why should Floyd go through Golden Boy when he can go directly through Top Rank?

Its what Mosley and Marquez did, cut out GBP and they got their wish

Probably will happen this way

DuBoef, Haymon, and Herschman can get it done

**GrantZilla** Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:27 pm

Arum: Who Cares What Schaefer Says? He's Not Involved!

Conbtrary to repeated assertions and allegations that his promotional ego is out of control and that he's blocking the path to making the Floyd Mayweather Jr.-Manny Pacquiao super fight, Bob Arum said Tuesday that he and his Top Rank company will only play "a functionary role" if the two fighters select any one of three investor group offers.

In essence, Arum explained, the three groups, all acting separately, are laying out huge offers to completely underwrite what is expected to be boxing's richest event ever with Floyd and Manny purses hovering around the $50 million mark.

"That's why we have (Pacquiao agent Michael) Koncz carrying the ball on this right. That is why he went to the Mayweather gym and met and spoke to Floyd. Michael was invited there by one of the three groups," Arum said before attending a Miguel Cotto open workout at the Kingsway Gym in midtown Manhattan.

"Everything is subject to negotiation and I will take the offers to Manny and, if Manny agrees then we can go to Floyd."

Arum said there was no great rush to delineate the respective offers. He said he would visit Pacquiao in the Philippines early into the New Year to sit down and put pencil to paper if he has firm, detailed offers in hand.

"I can't attend Manny's birthday party this year (Dec. 17) because of a personal committment but I'd go see him soon after that," Arum said. "We would be crazy not to carefully explore these unprecedented offers."

Arum said he thinks all the groups prefer a U.S. site (which translates probably to Las Vegas) and added that Pacquiao would look for a date in June, not the May 5 MGM Grand Hotel & Casino date that Mayweather keeps pushing.

"Manny needs time for that eye cut (from the Nov. 12 Marquez III bout) to heal properly." Arum said.

"This whole thing looks like it can be a win-win for Manny and for Floyd, for everybody who is involved."

In response to a major verbal blast, attacking him as a habitual liar, from Golden Boy's Richard Schaefer Monday, Arum said it did not bother him.

"It's understandable because Richard is on the outside looking in," Arum said. "Who knows and who cares what Richard says?

"They have no contract with Floyd, that's fact. Just like Manny, aside from our contract with him, can choose who he wants representing him so can Floyd do the same thing. We don't tell Floyd or Manny who they can have working for them."

And so, as Linda and not Leonard Ellerbe used to say, it goes.

I asked Arum about Ellerbe's remark that Koncz did not speak to Mayweather during his gym visit and that Floyd did not who the Canadian was.

"Isn't that sad?" Arum said. "Michael was there with the investor group. They had a meeting, a concise meeting about the situation and anything else said on that is bulls**t."

Finally, Arum said he a fond regard for the whole Mayweather clan. Top Rank formerly promoted Floyd Jr., uncle Roger when he was a world champ and uncle Jeff when he was a pro boxer.

"I consider mysdelf friendly with all the Mayweathers," Arum said. I handled Roger and Jeff also, I think they are all great guys."Nows it's turning into a fistic lovefest, folks.

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**gomez1012** Tue Nov 29, 2011 7:10 pm

Schaefer and Oscar looking like idiots

again

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