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Post  GrantZilla Mon Nov 21, 2011 7:23 pm

Trainer Freddie Roach doesn't think much of WBC Diamond champion Sergio Martinez (48-2-2, 27KOs). The four-time trainer of the year is not impressed with Martinez as a boxer and believes Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. (44-0-1, 31KOs), the middleweight champion, would beat Martinez right now. Roach feels Chavez improved a lot as a fighter and liked what he saw on Saturday night when Julio stopped Peter Manfredo Jr. in five rounds. Roach hopes Top Rank's CEO Bob Arum will sign the Martinez fight right now and doesn't see a reason for holding it off.

"Let's do it now. I'm ready right now. He can kick his ass right, in my opinion. I don't think he's a great fighter. He's a great athlete, I'll give him that. But he's not a great fighter...anyone who gets knocked out by Antonio Margarito. I don't see the greatness. I cant take away his athleticism. He's a great athlete, yes, but he's not a great boxer," Roach said.


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Post  captainanddew Mon Nov 21, 2011 7:40 pm

then let daddy bob make the fight!!!
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Post  GrantZilla Mon Nov 21, 2011 7:52 pm

captainanddew wrote:then let daddy bob make the fight!!!

Get a load of this gem from The Roach as far as fighting Alverez:

Roach says he doesn't want any catchweight for the fight.

"Chavez is the middleweight champion," Roach said. "If [Alvarez] wants to the title, come up and get it."


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I'm going to gag on the hypocrisy.
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Post  jz_hova Mon Nov 21, 2011 8:14 pm

GrantZilla wrote:
captainanddew wrote:then let daddy bob make the fight!!!

Get a load of this gem from The Roach as far as fighting Alverez:

Roach says he doesn't want any catchweight for the fight.

"Chavez is the middleweight champion," Roach said. "If [Alvarez] wants to the title, come up and get it."


http://tinyurl.com/7vrwz2b

I'm going to gag on the hypocrisy.

hypocrisy? Pac holds the chips so he has the right to make fighters come down. Chavez jr holds the chip as the best middleweight. come up Alverez and get whooped like a red head step child
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Post  Soonermark890 Mon Nov 21, 2011 8:31 pm

I want them to make the fight. I really think it would be a great fight. Chavez is not a boring fighter. Sergio is a real exciting fighter. Lets make this happen.
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Post  Gumby Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:17 pm

I would watch the fight and think it would be a good one (wouldn't have said that a year a go). Chavez is a little bit like Pavlik: a little bit better movement, looks a little bit stronger physically, not as good a puncher, not as hard a puncher, and we don't know about his toughness/chin. That fight was awesome.

As far as Freddy, when has he not said he has the best fighters in the world? I want him to focus on making Linares (his best fighter according to him) into a champion.
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Post  Suavecito80 Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:55 am

LOL! Freddy back at it again. How soon he forgets the "Pacquiao will KO JMM in less than four rounds" dude talks to damn much. Martinez beats chavez soundly and probably will KO his ass. I am not even going to get into the "come up and get it" comment.
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Post  Suavecito80 Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:56 am

jz_hova wrote:
GrantZilla wrote:
captainanddew wrote:then let daddy bob make the fight!!!

Get a load of this gem from The Roach as far as fighting Alverez:

Roach says he doesn't want any catchweight for the fight.

"Chavez is the middleweight champion," Roach said. "If [Alvarez] wants to the title, come up and get it."


http://tinyurl.com/7vrwz2b

I'm going to gag on the hypocrisy.

hypocrisy? Pac holds the chips so he has the right to make fighters come down. Chavez jr holds the chip as the best middleweight. come up Alverez and get whooped like a red head step child

hahahaha what the fuck! hahahaha
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Post  powerpuncher Tue Nov 22, 2011 2:58 am

i cant stand roach! he talks so much and its not even funny like roger mayweather. he is just arrogant and annoying.
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Post  GrantZilla Tue Nov 22, 2011 3:05 am

powerpuncher wrote:i cant stand roach! he talks so much and its not even funny like roger mayweather. he is just arrogant and annoying.

Yeah. He's an attention whore more than he is a trainer.
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Post  Guest Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:16 pm

Freddie's being way too ignorant with Martinez, by his logic Manny isn't great because of his knockout loses earlier in his career.

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Post  Soonermark890 Tue Nov 22, 2011 5:24 pm

powerpuncher wrote:i cant stand roach! he talks so much and its not even funny like roger mayweather. he is just arrogant and annoying.
I like him because he is confident in his fighters and is not the type to beat around the bush. Roger isn't funny I cant understand what that meth addict says.
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Post  GrantZilla Tue Nov 22, 2011 5:26 pm

Soonermark890 wrote:
powerpuncher wrote:i cant stand roach! he talks so much and its not even funny like roger mayweather. he is just arrogant and annoying.
I like him because he is confident in his fighters and is not the type to beat around the bush. Roger isn't funny I cant understand what that meth addict says.

He's a blathering hypocrite. Mr Catchweights saying he doesn't want a catchweight. Shitting on Martinez's early loss, yet Pac had early losses. So did his boy Khan who got knocked the fuck out in under a minute.



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Post  Soonermark890 Tue Nov 22, 2011 5:33 pm

GrantZilla wrote:
Soonermark890 wrote:
powerpuncher wrote:i cant stand roach! he talks so much and its not even funny like roger mayweather. he is just arrogant and annoying.
I like him because he is confident in his fighters and is not the type to beat around the bush. Roger isn't funny I cant understand what that meth addict says.

He's a blathering hypocrite. Mr Catchweights saying he doesn't want a catchweight. Shitting on Martinez's early loss, yet Pac had early losses. So did his boy Khan who got knocked the fuck out in under a minute.

He is the best trainer there is today and there is a lot of truth to what he says even if he is being a hypocrite.
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Post  GrantZilla Tue Nov 22, 2011 6:02 pm

Soonermark890 wrote:He is the best trainer there is today and there is a lot of truth to what he says even if he is being a hypocrite.

What truth?
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Post  Soonermark890 Tue Nov 22, 2011 6:21 pm

GrantZilla wrote:
Soonermark890 wrote:He is the best trainer there is today and there is a lot of truth to what he says even if he is being a hypocrite.

What truth?
I don't think he's a great fighter. He's a great athlete, I'll give him that. But he's not a great fighter
While I dont completely agree there is some truth behind that.
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Post  GrantZilla Tue Nov 22, 2011 6:32 pm

Soonermark890 wrote:
GrantZilla wrote:
Soonermark890 wrote:He is the best trainer there is today and there is a lot of truth to what he says even if he is being a hypocrite.

What truth?
I don't think he's a great fighter. He's a great athlete, I'll give him that. But he's not a great fighter
While I dont completely agree there is some truth behind that.

See, The Roach is even too dense to phrase it right. If he said "Martinez is not a great fundamental boxer but a great athlete and fighter" then I'd agree with it.

The hell he isn't a great fighter. He's the fucking Middleweight Champion of the world.
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Post  hardcorebee24 Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:10 pm

GrantZilla wrote:
Soonermark890 wrote:
GrantZilla wrote:
Soonermark890 wrote:He is the best trainer there is today and there is a lot of truth to what he says even if he is being a hypocrite.

What truth?
I don't think he's a great fighter. He's a great athlete, I'll give him that. But he's not a great fighter
While I dont completely agree there is some truth behind that.

See, The Roach is even too dense to phrase it right. If he said "Martinez is not a great fundamental boxer but a great athlete and fighter" then I'd agree with it.

The hell he isn't a great fighter. He's the fucking Middleweight Champion of the world.

Isn't that the report on Paquiao as well? Great athlete with decent fundamentals.
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Post  GrantZilla Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:27 pm

hardcorebee24 wrote:
GrantZilla wrote:
See, The Roach is even too dense to phrase it right. If he said "Martinez is not a great fundamental boxer but a great athlete and fighter" then I'd agree with it.

The hell he isn't a great fighter. He's the fucking Middleweight Champion of the world.

Isn't that the report on Paquiao as well? Great athlete with decent fundamentals.

Yup, why The Roach is as much of hypocrit as Atlas.

And he just keeps going:

Roach want Alvarez to face Chavez at the full middleweight limit of 160-pounds. He doesn't agree with catch-weights - even though his star fighter Manny Pacquiao has used catch-weights in several of his recent fights.

"I say fuck Alvarez. If he wants to fight for the middleweight title - the weight is 160. I don't like catch-weight fights, even though I've been involved in them before with my fighters, but I'm a purist at heart and I love boxing and I don't think they should have them. That's my opinion," Roach said.

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Post  Soonermark890 Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:41 pm

GrantZilla wrote:
Soonermark890 wrote:
GrantZilla wrote:
Soonermark890 wrote:He is the best trainer there is today and there is a lot of truth to what he says even if he is being a hypocrite.

What truth?
I don't think he's a great fighter. He's a great athlete, I'll give him that. But he's not a great fighter
While I dont completely agree there is some truth behind that.

See, The Roach is even too dense to phrase it right. If he said "Martinez is not a great fundamental boxer but a great athlete and fighter" then I'd agree with it.

The hell he isn't a great fighter. He's the fucking Middleweight Champion of the world.
I agree with that 100%. I am pretty sure thats what he meant but your right.
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Post  Soonermark890 Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:43 pm

GrantZilla wrote:
hardcorebee24 wrote:
GrantZilla wrote:
See, The Roach is even too dense to phrase it right. If he said "Martinez is not a great fundamental boxer but a great athlete and fighter" then I'd agree with it.

The hell he isn't a great fighter. He's the fucking Middleweight Champion of the world.

Isn't that the report on Paquiao as well? Great athlete with decent fundamentals.

Yup, why The Roach is as much of hypocrit as Atlas.

And he just keeps going:

Roach want Alvarez to face Chavez at the full middleweight limit of 160-pounds. He doesn't agree with catch-weights - even though his star fighter Manny Pacquiao has used catch-weights in several of his recent fights.

"I say fuck Alvarez. If he wants to fight for the middleweight title - the weight is 160. I don't like catch-weight fights, even though I've been involved in them before with my fighters, but I'm a purist at heart and I love boxing and I don't think they should have them. That's my opinion," Roach said.

http://tinyurl.com/7vdekcv
I always wondered if its Roach, Pac or Arum who wants the catch weights?
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Post  captainanddew Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:34 pm

Soonermark890 wrote:
GrantZilla wrote:
hardcorebee24 wrote:
GrantZilla wrote:
See, The Roach is even too dense to phrase it right. If he said "Martinez is not a great fundamental boxer but a great athlete and fighter" then I'd agree with it.

The hell he isn't a great fighter. He's the fucking Middleweight Champion of the world.

Isn't that the report on Paquiao as well? Great athlete with decent fundamentals.

Yup, why The Roach is as much of hypocrit as Atlas.

And he just keeps going:

Roach want Alvarez to face Chavez at the full middleweight limit of 160-pounds. He doesn't agree with catch-weights - even though his star fighter Manny Pacquiao has used catch-weights in several of his recent fights.

"I say fuck Alvarez. If he wants to fight for the middleweight title - the weight is 160. I don't like catch-weight fights, even though I've been involved in them before with my fighters, but I'm a purist at heart and I love boxing and I don't think they should have them. That's my opinion," Roach said.

http://tinyurl.com/7vdekcv
I always wondered if its Roach, Pac or Arum who wants the catch weights?

I think it is roach. He doesn't want to lose more than Pac or Arum.
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Post  powerpuncher Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:40 pm

Soonermark890 wrote:
GrantZilla wrote:
Soonermark890 wrote:
powerpuncher wrote:i cant stand roach! he talks so much and its not even funny like roger mayweather. he is just arrogant and annoying.
I like him because he is confident in his fighters and is not the type to beat around the bush. Roger isn't funny I cant understand what that meth addict says.

He's a blathering hypocrite. Mr Catchweights saying he doesn't want a catchweight. Shitting on Martinez's early loss, yet Pac had early losses. So did his boy Khan who got knocked the fuck out in under a minute.

He is the best trainer there is today and there is a lot of truth to what he says even if he is being a hypocrite.
i didnt say he wasnt a great trainer. im just saying that he is annoying.
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Post  Soonermark890 Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:06 pm

powerpuncher wrote:
Soonermark890 wrote:
GrantZilla wrote:
Soonermark890 wrote:
powerpuncher wrote:i cant stand roach! he talks so much and its not even funny like roger mayweather. he is just arrogant and annoying.
I like him because he is confident in his fighters and is not the type to beat around the bush. Roger isn't funny I cant understand what that meth addict says.

He's a blathering hypocrite. Mr Catchweights saying he doesn't want a catchweight. Shitting on Martinez's early loss, yet Pac had early losses. So did his boy Khan who got knocked the fuck out in under a minute.

He is the best trainer there is today and there is a lot of truth to what he says even if he is being a hypocrite.
i didnt say he wasnt a great trainer. im just saying that he is annoying.
LOL yeah I know. I was just pointing out he wasnt lying about Sergio. BTW I really want to see Sergio vs JCC Jr. That will be a really fun fight. I think Sergio wins and JCC takes a beating but it will be a fun fight. Jr has a chin.
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Post  captainanddew Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:45 pm

Soonermark890 wrote:
powerpuncher wrote:
Soonermark890 wrote:
GrantZilla wrote:
Soonermark890 wrote:
powerpuncher wrote:i cant stand roach! he talks so much and its not even funny like roger mayweather. he is just arrogant and annoying.
I like him because he is confident in his fighters and is not the type to beat around the bush. Roger isn't funny I cant understand what that meth addict says.

He's a blathering hypocrite. Mr Catchweights saying he doesn't want a catchweight. Shitting on Martinez's early loss, yet Pac had early losses. So did his boy Khan who got knocked the fuck out in under a minute.

He is the best trainer there is today and there is a lot of truth to what he says even if he is being a hypocrite.
i didnt say he wasnt a great trainer. im just saying that he is annoying.
LOL yeah I know. I was just pointing out he wasnt lying about Sergio. BTW I really want to see Sergio vs JCC Jr. That will be a really fun fight. I think Sergio wins and JCC takes a beating but it will be a fun fight. Jr has a chin.

He does have a good chin but he keeps fighting guys without power. Zbik-no power. Manfredo-little power. He did withstand Duddy's shots. Martinez is different though. he can hit you with shots you don't see coming and from a southpaw stance.
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