Chavez Jr. to leave Roach?

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Chavez Jr. to leave Roach?

Post  powerpuncher on Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:40 am

http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/jc-chavez-jr-leave-to-freddie-roach-157152

hes not going to have any fighters soon which will probably kill him (literally). i think that thats what hes living for. i do think that nacho will do well for chavez. although i highly doubt he will ever be great, he should improve in his ability.
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Post  NJBeatdown86 on Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:11 pm

Much like Freddie, Nacho isn't a miracle worker. He can improve, sure, but Jr's notorious lack of dedication during training will always be a factor.
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Post  powerpuncher on Thu Dec 20, 2012 3:39 am

NJBeatdown86 wrote:Much like Freddie, Nacho isn't a miracle worker. He can improve, sure, but Jr's notorious lack of dedication during training will always be a factor.
i agree that a trainer cant necessarily make a fighter great who just dont have the talent but i feel like nacho is a lot more down to business than roach. i also think that he teaches his fighters to fight smart more than roach does.
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Post  hillsicc303 on Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:24 am

Like I said on another forum:

I don't care who Bum Jr's trainer is...he'll still be a Bum. You can't turn shit into sugar. Sorry...

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Post  Frank on Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:37 am

A trainer's job is to get the best out of his fighter. I don't see how anyone can argue that Roach has failed to do this with all of his fighters.

I know some horrible trainers in boxing. Devon Alexander has one of them. Roach is almost as good as it gets.

I'll say this in favor of Roach. Changing the way a fighter fights has to be one of the toughest things in the world to do. You can train that guy for months or even years, but when he's in a competitive contest, he'll most likely go back to his old ways. Emanuel Steward went through this with Jermaine Taylor.

Roach had the ability to improve those fighters who listened to him. Short of fighting for his guys, that's the best any trainer can do.

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Post  Diego408 on Thu Dec 20, 2012 3:01 pm

I dont think he will improve very much with nacho or at all, but with Robert Garcia he will be better off. Jr should make Robert Garcia his trainer. TO be honest Roach has always been ovrrated. Manny is his best fighter and he didnt really make Manny, because he had already been a champion and was a good fighter.
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Post  captainanddew on Thu Dec 20, 2012 8:17 pm

Devon Alexander's trainer is great.

that is if you like to hear advice like do what you do.

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Post  captainanddew on Thu Dec 20, 2012 8:23 pm

Freddie is going to be hurting inside when he can no longer train fighters. That day is not that far off.

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Post  powerpuncher on Fri Dec 21, 2012 3:46 am

captainanddew wrote:Devon Alexander's trainer is great.

that is if you like to hear advice like do what you do.
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