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Is Freddie Roach being ignorant about Sergio Martinez ?

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Post  Guest Sat Jul 16, 2011 2:49 pm

Trainer Freddie Roach spoke with the Grand Rapids Press about one of his new boxers, undefeated middleweight contender Peter Quillin (24-0, 18KOs), who steps in the ring on the Amir Khan-Zab Judah undercard on July 23 at the Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas. The current king of the middleweights is Sergio Martinez. Roach questions the impressive record of Martinez, and welcomes an immediate fight with Quillin. Martinez returns to action on October 1 against Darren Barker.

"Everybody tells me how good Sergio Martinez is," Roach said. "I’d welcome that fight for Pete. Pete’s learning curve, he’s one of those guys like Pacquiao, you show him a move once, they absorb it real quick," Roach said. "He’s not a slow learner, he’s a fast learner. I’ve had slow learners before, not that there’s anything wrong with it. But, like, when I was teaching Oscar (De La Hoya), it took time. He didn’t pick it up right away. So everyone is a little different."

"How good is the guy [Martinez], really? Antonio Margarito knocked Martinez out, and that was at 147 pounds," Roach said. "(Kermit) Cintron beat him, also (actually, it was a controversial draw). He’s a great athlete, and Pete is also, but Pete knows boxing, and Martinez’s boxing skills are limited."

http://www.boxingscene.com/roach-not-impressed-with-sergio-martinez-boasts-quillin--41609

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Post  Diego408 Sat Jul 16, 2011 3:28 pm

Hes obviously hating on Martinez because Martinez is calling out Pacquaio and theres nothing they can do other than down grade Martinez as a fighter because they do not want Martinez to destroy Pacquaio. How is it that Pacquaio can move up to fight for a Jr. Middleweight belt and not fight Martinez??? I get the size thing, but if you wanna come up to win a belt why cant you fight others at the weight class because thats the weight Martinez said he would fight Pacquiao at. Arum is doing what he can to avoid him, he got Pacquaio and Chavez (WBC) belts without fighting Martinez. And if Roach really believes Cintron won that fight, he is really out of his mind. He can say what he wants about Peter Quillin, but the guy wont step up.
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Post  captainanddew Sat Jul 16, 2011 3:34 pm


Martinez lost to Cheato a long time ago. He wasn't developed fully as a fighter at that time. The Martinez that beat up Cintron, PW, Dzinziruk, would have beaten down the Martinez that fought Cheato. It isn't as if Pac didn't lose fights earlier in his career.

I am getting very tired of Freddie running his mouth about fighters who don't fight for him. If Martinez asked him to be his trainer for his last few fights, Freddie would then start saying that Martinez is a great fighter.
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Post  gomez1012 Sat Jul 16, 2011 3:35 pm

Freddie being a promoter to get his guy a fight
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Post  GrantZilla Sat Jul 16, 2011 4:19 pm

So I guess according to Freddy logic, Pac must suck too because he got KO'd by a no-namer.

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Post  Gumby Sun Jul 17, 2011 1:02 pm

Freddie Roach will say anything that's convenient. He occasionally makes good insights and does a good job of sizing up fighters when he doesn't have a stake in either guy, but he's a promoter. He just talks so his guys look better or their opponents look worse.

In that statement he:
- Took a shot at Oscar
- Hyped up his superstar and a top prospect
- Discredited the #3 p4p fighter in the world with Floyd logic
- Tried to argue that SM doesn't know how to box (the same guy who just outboxed Dzinziruk in his last fight).
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Post  GrantZilla Sun Jul 17, 2011 6:00 pm

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Post  Guest Sun Jul 17, 2011 6:05 pm

Freddy better zip it before he becomes the new Teddy.

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Post  NJBeatdown86 Sun Jul 17, 2011 6:06 pm

Despite being brain damaged, Freddy is still more coherent than Teddy.
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Post  GrantZilla Sun Jul 17, 2011 6:10 pm

Canvas wrote:Freddy better zip it before he becomes the new Teddy.

This is why I was one of the few that was not outraged by Margs and Rios mocking Roach's condition.

The Roach takes personal shots at fighters all the time, and talks so much shit. If he wants to dish it out, he better be able to take it.
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