Pacman says he will fight Sergio Martinez at 150

GrantZilla wrote:You have no justification for your blind hate for Martinez. Are you really implying that Martinez is scared of Pac? You for real?

jz_hova wrote:

GrantZilla wrote:You have no justification for your blind hate for Martinez. Are you really implying that Martinez is scared of Pac? You for real?

Sergio says he will come down to fight Pac at 150. Pac says bring your ass

NOW we will wait to see what Sergio has to say

That's all I am says

Bluff has been called

captainanddew wrote:

jz_hova wrote:

GrantZilla wrote:You have no justification for your blind hate for Martinez. Are you really implying that Martinez is scared of Pac? You for real?

Sergio says he will come down to fight Pac at 150. Pac says bring your ass

NOW we will wait to see what Sergio has to say

That's all I am says

Bluff has been called

Bluff? SErgio already said he'd go all the way down to 150 for the fight

. Pac can say whatever the hell he wants because he knows Arum isn't going to make the fight. If they did get in the ring, Pac gets knocked into the middle of next year.

Pac is a great fighter, but he picks very carefully when facing much bigger guys. There is a reason the biggest guy he has faced (margacheato-approx 17 pounds bigger in the ring or thereabout and same size as Martinez) is a guy who had been in wars, taken a beatdown from Mosley, and then had a long layoff.

Hagler's Bald Head wrote:Pac needs to focus on Jr/Welterweight.

Martinez needs to focus on Middleweight.

dmar5143 wrote:i dont want to see that fight at 150.martinez admitted heath wise its a danger for him to cut thoses extra pounds.personaly i hope the talk stops.if pac wants the middle title then its at 160 max.im a pac fan but for the 100th time lets stop the illusions that hes realy fought bigger guys.especialy so called bigger guys that were not a shell of there former self.
a fight like they had in the days of real boxing a good bigger guy against a good smaller guy without this catch weight stuff pac gets crushed..thoses two are my favorite fighters today but lets not do a handicap this isnt horseracing.

Soonermark890 wrote:

Hagler's Bald Head wrote:Pac needs to focus on Jr/Welterweight.

Martinez needs to focus on Middleweight.

I agree. But if it happens how many people are going to talk shit on how Pac is making Sergio come down even though it was Sergio's boast that led to it?

I will say if Pac beats Sergio he is by far the best fighter of the last 20-25 years debate over.

SlickMoney wrote:Catchweight fights dont make a career. I dont see how beating the middleweight champ 10 pounds under the middleweight limit really means anything. This would be another farce to add to Packy's list.

GrantZilla wrote:

SlickMoney wrote:Catchweight fights dont make a career. I dont see how beating the middleweight champ 10 pounds under the middleweight limit really means anything. This would be another farce to add to Packy's list.

I'd settle for Pac fighting Martinez at Jr Middle to prove he has any business claiming he's a Jr Middle Champ.

SlickMoney wrote:

Soonermark890 wrote:

Hagler's Bald Head wrote:Pac needs to focus on Jr/Welterweight.

Martinez needs to focus on Middleweight.

I agree. But if it happens how many people are going to talk shit on how Pac is making Sergio come down even though it was Sergio's boast that led to it?

I will say if Pac beats Sergio he is by far the best fighter of the last 20-25 years debate over.

Catchweight fights dont make a career. I dont see how beating the middleweight champ 10 pounds under the middleweight limit really means anything. This would be another farce to add to Packy's list.

captainanddew wrote:?

SlickMoney wrote:

Soonermark890 wrote:

Hagler's Bald Head wrote:Pac needs to focus on Jr/Welterweight.

Martinez needs to focus on Middleweight.

I agree. But if it happens how many people are going to talk shit on how Pac is making Sergio come down even though it was Sergio's boast that led to it?

I will say if Pac beats Sergio he is by far the best fighter of the last 20-25 years debate over.

Catchweight fights dont make a career. I dont see how beating the middleweight champ 10 pounds under the middleweight limit really means anything. This would be another farce to add to Packy's list.

Soonermark890 wrote:None of the fights are a farce the only guy who has ever fought Pac that looked drained was Oscar and he was viewed as the one who was picking on the little guy. Everyone saw that fight as an easy Oscar win. Cotto was not drained. Margo wasnt drained. Neither was Shane. This fight would just add to one of the greatest careers of all time.

SlickMoney wrote:None of Pac's fight have been a farce? Fighting Mosley on PPV after he gets embarrassed by Floyd and getting a draw with Sergio freaking Mora isnt a farce? Or fighting Margarito on PPV at 150 for a 154 vacant title isnt a farce? The last real threat Pac faced was Hatton. I'm the biggest Cotto fan here and even i knew he had no chance vs Pac. No surprise he's fighting Marquez at 144. Another Farce.

GrantZilla wrote:

SlickMoney wrote:None of Pac's fight have been a farce? Fighting Mosley on PPV after he gets embarrassed by Floyd and getting a draw with Sergio freaking Mora isnt a farce? Or fighting Margarito on PPV at 150 for a 154 vacant title isnt a farce? The last real threat Pac faced was Hatton. I'm the biggest Cotto fan here and even i knew he had no chance vs Pac. No surprise he's fighting Marquez at 144. Another Farce.

I agree. Why I don't think Pac's success is linked to PEDs, but to cherry picking damaged opponents on the decline

I even disagree that Hatton was his biggest threat. Hatton was damaged goods. He got beat up by journeyman Lazcano. Hatton's face after the fight



I hate when people used idiotic logic to try and discredit a fighter. how the fuck is a fight against Lazcano (That hatton won the fight) a year prior effect the Hatton vs Pac fight? Hatton was undefeated at 140 period, Hatton was coming off of two straight wins period. those are facts not logic.

Going by your logic Hatton was already Damaged goods before the Flod fight because of the Collazo fight.

Pac has fought 1 fighter coming off of a loss and that was Clottey. That is facts not logic

Pac hasn't fought a fighter that wasn't on the decline and coming off brutal losses in a while.

jz_hova wrote:
I hate when people used idiotic logic to try and discredit a fighter. how the fuck is a fight against Lazcano (That hatton won the fight) a year prior effect the Hatton vs Pac fight? Hatton was undefeated at 140 period, Hatton was coming off of two straight wins period. those are facts not logic.

Going by your logic Hatton was already Damaged goods before the Flod fight because of the Collazo fight.

Pac has fought 1 fighter coming off of a loss and that was Clottey. That is facts not logic

Pac hasn't fought a fighter that wasn't on the decline and coming off brutal losses in a while.