I hope you Sergio Martinez fans were watching the fight last night

captainanddew wrote:Martinez knocks him out. End of story.

jz_hova wrote:You know whats coming when the kid whoops him. Chavez jr is beating people his own size. So step up and lets make the fight

flapanther2001 wrote:

jz_hova wrote:You know whats coming when the kid whoops him. Chavez jr is beating people his own size. So step up and lets make the fight

LOL...did you just equate Jr fighting Bumfredo to "beating guys his own size" and having the ability to handle Martinez? Ahahahahahahahahahaha............I know you're smokin' some good ass shit now!!

powerpuncher wrote:chavez needs to actually fight a decent fighter first before he even deserves a shot at martinez

jz_hova wrote:

powerpuncher wrote:chavez needs to actually fight a decent fighter first before he even deserves a shot at martinez

he should fight Matthew Macklin like Sergio

UBeeg9cats wrote:I am fully with everyone that Sergio knocks him out but Jr has fought a couple of solid guys. Duddy, Manfredo, and especially Zbik will beat guys that are not world class. He makes more money than he should but I think he is solid.

powerpuncher wrote:

UBeeg9cats wrote:I am fully with everyone that Sergio knocks him out but Jr has fought a couple of solid guys. Duddy, Manfredo, and especially Zbik will beat guys that are not world class. He makes more money than he should but I think he is solid.

are you serious? duddy and manfredo are hardly solid guys unless you rate C class fighters solid. and zbik is alright and gave him a ton of trouble. the only reason chavez did anywhere near as well as he did though was because zbik has no power.

flapanther2001 wrote:

powerpuncher wrote:

UBeeg9cats wrote:I am fully with everyone that Sergio knocks him out but Jr has fought a couple of solid guys. Duddy, Manfredo, and especially Zbik will beat guys that are not world class. He makes more money than he should but I think he is solid.

are you serious? duddy and manfredo are hardly solid guys unless you rate C class fighters solid. and zbik is alright and gave him a ton of trouble. the only reason chavez did anywhere near as well as he did though was because zbik has no power.

+1.....no, make that +infinity

UBeeg9cats wrote:

flapanther2001 wrote:

powerpuncher wrote:

UBeeg9cats wrote:I am fully with everyone that Sergio knocks him out but Jr has fought a couple of solid guys. Duddy, Manfredo, and especially Zbik will beat guys that are not world class. He makes more money than he should but I think he is solid.

are you serious? duddy and manfredo are hardly solid guys unless you rate C class fighters solid. and zbik is alright and gave him a ton of trouble. the only reason chavez did anywhere near as well as he did though was because zbik has no power.

+1.....no, make that +infinity

Give them a low grade and rip them all you want but they were top 25 in the world in their weight classes. I think that means a guy is solid even if you guys don't. Right now Alcine is rated #25(boxrec) in the world at 160. Do you think he beats Manfredo? How about David Lopez beating Duddy at 154? I have Manfredo and Duddy in those fights. I think Manfredo beats Spinks(16) as well and maybe even this Adama guy I haven't heard of. Adama is ranked 11th by boxrec which while inferior in rankings to knowledgable fans is unbiased and ranks by resume and activity.

UBeeg9cats wrote:Give them a low grade and rip them all you want but they were top 25 in the world in their weight classes. I think that means a guy is solid even if you guys don't. Right now Alcine is rated #25(boxrec) in the world at 160. Do you think he beats Manfredo? How about David Lopez beating Duddy at 154? I have Manfredo and Duddy in those fights. I think Manfredo beats Spinks(16) as well and maybe even this Adama guy I haven't heard of. Adama is ranked 11th by boxrec which while inferior in rankings to knowledgable fans is unbiased and ranks by resume and activity.

powerpuncher wrote:

UBeeg9cats wrote:

flapanther2001 wrote:

powerpuncher wrote:

UBeeg9cats wrote:I am fully with everyone that Sergio knocks him out but Jr has fought a couple of solid guys. Duddy, Manfredo, and especially Zbik will beat guys that are not world class. He makes more money than he should but I think he is solid.

are you serious? duddy and manfredo are hardly solid guys unless you rate C class fighters solid. and zbik is alright and gave him a ton of trouble. the only reason chavez did anywhere near as well as he did though was because zbik has no power.

+1.....no, make that +infinity

Give them a low grade and rip them all you want but they were top 25 in the world in their weight classes. I think that means a guy is solid even if you guys don't. Right now Alcine is rated #25(boxrec) in the world at 160. Do you think he beats Manfredo? How about David Lopez beating Duddy at 154? I have Manfredo and Duddy in those fights. I think Manfredo beats Spinks(16) as well and maybe even this Adama guy I haven't heard of. Adama is ranked 11th by boxrec which while inferior in rankings to knowledgable fans is unbiased and ranks by resume and activity.

im sure that spinks could easily beat manfredo even now. and being a top 25 guy doesnt mean anything. name one good fighter or even kind of good fighter that either manfredo or duddy has beaten.

GrantZilla wrote:

UBeeg9cats wrote:Give them a low grade and rip them all you want but they were top 25 in the world in their weight classes. I think that means a guy is solid even if you guys don't. Right now Alcine is rated #25(boxrec) in the world at 160. Do you think he beats Manfredo? How about David Lopez beating Duddy at 154? I have Manfredo and Duddy in those fights. I think Manfredo beats Spinks(16) as well and maybe even this Adama guy I haven't heard of. Adama is ranked 11th by boxrec which while inferior in rankings to knowledgable fans is unbiased and ranks by resume and activity.

Middleweight is garbage right now. So being ranked in top 25 by Boxrec means little. And Boxrec uses a points formula that is not always accurate.

BumFredo sucks and is not even a B level fighter, and neither is Duddy

UBeeg9cats wrote:
I watched Spinks last 2 fights live from 10 rows back. He has NOTHING left and would be a very small middle. I understand why my opinion is against the norm now. Apparently anyone outside the top 10 isn't even solid or a level below world class as I originally described these guys.