Tickets for Mayweather-Ortiz not doing well

Floyd has done better with ticket sales in the last half decade because of the opponents(not chronological order):
Hatton-British fans flock to see him
Marquez-Mexican fighter doesn't hurt in bringing in Latinos
De La Hoya-golden boy had his own fans
Mosley-while neither Mosley nor Mayweather are huge sellers on their own, matching the two fighters provided enough fans willing to pony up to watch the fight live

Ortiz doesn't guarantee a big live gate. Couple that with an economy in the crapper, football just coming back, etc... and I think there will be alot of tickets given away.

Vegas is dead. Fights are only held there not because of fans, but because of casinio site fees, and no income tax.

Nobody got money to go to Vegas. Let alone pay for over-priced shity tickets.

Vegas is still one of the cheapest destinations in terms of airfare and hotels, but you're right that there are plenty of better places to hold a fight nowadays. Still, $600 for a crappy seat to a fight is foolish in this economy for any place.

Tobe wrote:Vegas is still one of the cheapest destinations in terms of airfare and hotels, but you're right that there are plenty of better places to hold a fight nowadays. Still, $600 for a crappy seat to a fight is foolish in this economy for any place.

People go to Vegas to gamble. What's the point when you got no extra cash to gamble. If you've already been to Vegas once and seen the attractions, there's no point in ever going again, unless you gamble. And yeah, your especialy not going to go if you got to spend 600 bucks for bad seats.

No reason this fight should not be sold out, outside highway robbery ticket prices.

Vegas is dead for all but the biggest fights, for both boxing and MMA. When my buddy Ricardo fought on the undercard of Lesnar-Carwin, he was able to sell his tickets almost instantly at mark-up price, back in February at Silva-Belfort, he had to drop the price and it was tougher to get rid of them.

24/7 is trying to boost the ticket sales by creating a "hero vs. villian" scenario between Ortiz and MW. Regardless of how authentic the argument was between Jr and Sr., it was exploited to give Floyd an evil persona. That may be a correct assessment of MW, however the producer of 24/7 had money as the motivation to show this argument, as well he should have. As far as the conflict being staged, I still have trouble believing that anyone would allow their family to be seen in such a disgraceful capacity in any case. Authentic or not, the MW family has as much self respect as most guests on the "Jerry Springer Show."

If the argument between Sr and Jr was to build up the fight, I can say that the producer has a very poor ability to create interest in an event. Look, there are people you love to hate. In other words, you kind of like them and laugh at their obnoxious exploits. Then, there are people you hate. These folks are extremely annoying and your soul purpose it to get as far away from them as possible. This person is not good for a boxing gate unless he's fighting someone who the public believes has a legit chance of beating him.

Look at it this way. We all have ex girlfriends, ex friends, etc, who we really don't like. Would you want to see them in any type of contest they were favored to win? Hell no. But if you got a chance to see them in a fight against a "500 lb Tiger" you'd tune in, right? Of course. The 500 lb Tiger in Floyd's case is Manny Pacquiao, not Ortiz. Therefore, this fight doesn't sell. Floyd has run out of boxers with considerable fan bases. It's Manny or nothing.

This fight will sale at the gate and on the PPV front. Hate him if you want and come up with all this BS about the opponent being the reason Mayweather's fights sell but he always does good when it comes to both of those aspects. Trust me I am far from a MW fan but you have put the haterade down and give props when they are due.

Suavecito80 wrote:This fight will sale at the gate and on the PPV front. Hate him if you want and come up with all this BS about the opponent being the reason Mayweather's fights sell but he always does good when it comes to both of those aspects. Trust me I am far from a MW fan but you have put the haterade down and give props when they are due.

No, I don't hate MW. I felt like I told it like it was, considering the info I read at the beginning of this thread. All I did was give my opinion. Now, if you have a prediction on the actual box office numbers this fight will generate, talk to Grant, who put the thread together in the first place. For the record, I'm with Grant.

Frank wrote:

Suavecito80 wrote:This fight will sale at the gate and on the PPV front. Hate him if you want and come up with all this BS about the opponent being the reason Mayweather's fights sell but he always does good when it comes to both of those aspects. Trust me I am far from a MW fan but you have put the haterade down and give props when they are due.

No, I don't hate MW. I felt like I told it like it was, considering the info I read at the beginning of this thread. All I did was give my opinion. Now, if you have a prediction on the actual box office numbers this fight will generate, talk to Grant, who put the thread together in the first place. For the record, I'm with Grant.

I wasn't directing my post at you. It still has a couple of weeks before the fight happens. I think it will do well because like I said his fights 99% of the time do. If I remember correctly wasn't the Mosley fight or the JMM fight doing "poorly" at one point and by the time the fight rolled around it sold over a million PPV's and the gate was sold out and if it was not sold out it was very close to being sold out.

Suavecito, you missed what I was saying. I didn't say Mayweather or the fight wasn't a draw. I said it's obviously over-priced tickets in a bad economy that's the problem.

Mayweather's fight with JMM and Mosley were not sell outs. Bulk of the tickets the casino gave out to high rollers and corporate suits. Not fans.

GrantZilla wrote:Suavecito, you missed what I was saying. I didn't say Mayweather or the fight wasn't a draw. I said it's obviously over-priced tickets in a bad economy that's the problem.

Mayweather's fight with JMM and Mosley were not sell outs. Bulk of the tickets the casino gave out to high rollers and corporate suits. Not fans.

What a dumb ass, LOL! I figured that out after I read it. In that case I agree. The prices are overpriced but that's Vegas for you I guess everything out there is high at least that is what I have been told since unfortunately I have never been. I was not trying to be confrontational or anything I guess I was mistaken with the gate sells but the PPV sells were high for both of Floyds last fights.

Suavecito80 wrote:

GrantZilla wrote:Suavecito, you missed what I was saying. I didn't say Mayweather or the fight wasn't a draw. I said it's obviously over-priced tickets in a bad economy that's the problem.

Mayweather's fight with JMM and Mosley were not sell outs. Bulk of the tickets the casino gave out to high rollers and corporate suits. Not fans.

What a dumb ass, LOL! I figured that out after I read it. In that case I agree. The prices are overpriced but that's Vegas for you I guess everything out there is high at least that is what I have been told since unfortunately I have never been. I was not trying to be confrontational or anything I guess I was mistaken with the gate sells but the PPV sells were high for both of Floyds last fights.

This PPV will do very well IMO too. With Canelo and Morales on the card on Mexican Independence, it is bound to succeed. Also, Grant is thick-skinned. It takes an awful lot to offend the man. Everyone here is pretty agreeable as long as you don't resort to personal attacks.

I hope it does well because it's actually a decent card, however I do feel the public are pissed that the Pacman fight hasn't happened already.

Ali wrote:I hope it does well because it's actually a decent card, however I do feel the public are pissed that the Pacman fight hasn't happened already.

Hell yeah they are as they should be. This fight should have happened two years ago.

Doesn't help when you've got those PTI's idiots saying " who cares we want Pac vs Floyd."

Ali wrote:I hope it does well because it's actually a decent card, however I do feel the public are pissed that the Pacman fight hasn't happened already.

I think that has little to do with it. Just people are broke man. And they're not going to spend 300 bucks on a shity seat when can just get some buddies over and watch it on PPV. Especialy when got no money to even gamble. What's the point in going to Vegas if your not going to gamble.

Dan Rafael
A Nevada commission source opined that Mayweather camp may have bought just enough unsold tix simply to nudge his gate ahead Pacquiao-Mosley

GrantZilla wrote:Dan Rafael
A Nevada commission source opined that Mayweather camp may have bought just enough unsold tix simply to nudge his gate ahead Pacquiao-Mosley

Had to buy out his own venue

gomez1012 wrote:

GrantZilla wrote:Dan Rafael
A Nevada commission source opined that Mayweather camp may have bought just enough unsold tix simply to nudge his gate ahead Pacquiao-Mosley

Had to buy out his own venue

Smart business though.

Gumby wrote:

gomez1012 wrote:

GrantZilla wrote:Dan Rafael
A Nevada commission source opined that Mayweather camp may have bought just enough unsold tix simply to nudge his gate ahead Pacquiao-Mosley

Had to buy out his own venue

Smart business though.

He got exposed doing it though.

SlickMoney wrote:

Gumby wrote:

gomez1012 wrote:

GrantZilla wrote:Dan Rafael
A Nevada commission source opined that Mayweather camp may have bought just enough unsold tix simply to nudge his gate ahead Pacquiao-Mosley

Had to buy out his own venue

Smart business though.

He got exposed doing it though.

The bottom line reads louder than the headline. You can twist and distort them but the numbers are the facts, and if he has those he has a lot of power.