Arreola in shape?

**gomez1012** Mon May 02, 2011 7:54 pm

http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/arreola-slims-down-83289

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A slimmed down and solid Chris “The Nightmare” Arreola, who is on target to enter the Home Depot Center boxing ring on Saturday night, May 14 in Carson, CA at his lowest weight in four years. “Right now I’m training very hard,” said the former #1-ranked world contender about his upcoming 10-round fight with Nagy Aguilera (16-5, 11 KOs) as the co-featured bout underneath the Super Six World Boxing Classic semi-final contest between WBA Super Middleweight Champion Andre Ward and Arthur Abraham. “I’m looking more to showing than talking; at least until after the fight,” said the normally ‘sound bite’ machine who ballooned up to a career high of 263 pounds in 2009.

The “re-dedication of Arreola” started when he and his longtime trainer Henry Ramirez trekked down to the Houston, TX training center run by Ronnie Shields to prepare for an ESPN2 main event on January 28, 2011. For the first time in eight fights, Arreola came in under 250-pounds for that bout. And now Arreola is back in Riverside hard at work with Ramirez for his upcoming bout. So what was Arreola’s motivation for re-dedicating himself? “I hate to lose,” he said.

Must of switched to the Fresco menu at Taco Bell

Groundhog Mon May 02, 2011 8:39 pm

"in shape" for the burrito buddha would be 220, 230 max. it's not happening, and if it does, it's too late.

**captainanddew** Mon May 02, 2011 8:49 pm

When I saw that on boxingscene, I looked closely and the weight looked like 245 on the scale. So he will come in low 240s. Which is still a joke, considering that is what Wlad comes in at, and Wlad is quite a bit taller. Arreola should be in the 220s like Groundhog said. It won't happen.

**captainanddew** Mon May 02, 2011 8:54 pm

when he fought Damian Wills in late 2006 and Malcom Tann in 2007, he looked much less soft when he weighed 229 and 235 for those fights.

**captainanddew** Mon May 02, 2011 9:05 pm

do HWs have to be ripped like guys in other weight classes (who have to cut bodyfat way down and then de-hydrate)? NO!!!

Is it a coincidence that the 3 belt holders all are in damn good shape (Vitali, Wlad, and Haye)? amazing. 3 guys professional enough to be in good shape.

powerpuncher Mon May 02, 2011 10:14 pm

captainanddew wrote:do HWs have to be ripped like guys in other weight classes (who have to cut bodyfat way down and then de-hydrate)? NO!!!

Is it a coincidence that the 3 belt holders all are in damn good shape (Vitali, Wlad, and Haye)? amazing. 3 guys professional enough to be in good shape.

thats why HWs are a joke these days. so many are overweight even though this is their job. if you are getting paid, you should put in the effort for the fans, otherwise, i dont want to pay to watch you fight.

flapanther2001 Mon May 02, 2011 11:10 pm

"I'm in shape.....round.".....James "The Grim Reaper" Roper

hardcorebee24 Tue May 03, 2011 12:08 am

It would be of the interest of that division to have body fat percentage limits. If the sanctioning bodies can't do it (which they can't) the promoters should write into their contracts that guys like Arreola are allowed no more than a certain percentage of body fat.

Groundhog Tue May 03, 2011 12:39 am

hardcorebee24 wrote:It would be of the interest of that division to have body fat percentage limits. If the sanctioning bodies can't do it (which they can't) the promoters should write into their contracts that guys like Arreola are allowed no more than a certain percentage of body fat.

Samoans everywhere just gave up their boxing dreams

Guest Tue May 03, 2011 1:25 am

hardcorebee24 wrote:It would be of the interest of that division to have body fat percentage limits. If the sanctioning bodies can't do it (which they can't) the promoters should write into their contracts that guys like Arreola are allowed no more than a certain percentage of body fat.

...why.there not competitive bodybuilders who do unhealty crap to get a very very low body fat count contest time
excess flab and weight is one thing thats inexcuseable ill agree ..body fat can be very very missleading.example a shapely trim to a real medium shape body of a women has a percentage of body fat that we would say awfull for fighters lol..bruce jenner a in shape trim guy a few years after the olimpics had a body fat of 18 percent.his wife had less and she kidded the trim jenner to no end.excess flab and weight i agree is inexcuseable for sure and aerola amoung others have come in fight night in a disgusting appearence.whats his ideal weight.its not 250..at 235 he still would be soft.jimmy young was soft at 215 eddie chambers at 209 but they were in condition.there will always be body types no matter the weight like aerolla which will have a percentage of body fat thats considered unexceptible on the health charts..id love to see fighters who dont look like toney peter at times aerolla and a few others of course but dont judge by the body fat count.its misleading big time...

hardcorebee24 Tue May 03, 2011 1:31 am

Dmar, you missed the part where I said guys like Arreola.

Boxing is a long distance event not a sprint. It would be in most boxers interest to be trim.

**GrantZilla** Tue May 03, 2011 2:51 am

Let the market decide, and it has. People in the US don't want to see fat, unskilled, plodding HWs. And that is why the lower weights have taken over. We got horse jockey size fighters making more money and exposure than HWs.

Arreola and his disgusting work ethic cost him. Not only in fights but in fans. Imagine the kind of fans a in shape Mexican American HW would get? Especially if that HW had a real shot to win the HW Championship

hardcorebee24 Tue May 03, 2011 5:50 am

GrantZilla wrote:Let the market decide, and it has. People in the US don't want to see fat, unskilled, plodding HWs. And that is why the lower weights have taken over. We got horse jockey size fighters making more money and exposure than HWs.

Arreola and his disgusting work ethic cost him. Not only in fights but in fans. Imagine the kind of fans a in shape Mexican American HW would get? Especially if that HW had a real shot to win the HW Championship

+1

Guest Tue May 03, 2011 6:46 am

hardcorebee24 wrote:Dmar, you missed the part where I said guys like Arreola.

Boxing is a long distance event not a sprint. It would be in most boxers interest to be trim.

...hardcore i didnt miss your point at all about fighters being trim or not looking obese with excess flaby bodyweight..in fact re read my post where i agreeded a few times..i disagreed with the percentage of body fat should be a MUST in there contracts via of a promoter.i gave my reasons and examples like a bruce jenner and others.
it seems like the many posts here on the weight of the HWS it makes it sound like all or a huge majority of thoses fighters are in a disgracefull condition.there not.if folks examine ring mags top 11 HWS this month they would find out its not true.arreola is the only one that is a sore site to the eyes..the 2 K brothewrs haye adamek povetkin chagav chambers boytsov dimitrenlo are not in that condition..
what should be a greater concern is hollified vs neilson fighting or in this months ring magazine of the 12 HW fights reported half had guys that are washed up ancient fighters were involved.guys like tua mccall toney grant and bert cooper fought.yep bert cooper.

dbudge Tue May 03, 2011 12:54 pm

why do you need a body fat percentage limit. the guys are only damaging their own careers by coming in out opf shape. if a guy looks wobbly round the middle but is still KOing or beating everybody they put in front of him then what is the problem?? you can't discriminate a guy out of his career because he's fat. it is no coincidence that the top guys are all in terrific shape, the fat boys will realise this as Arreola is doing. fair play to Arreola, he fought against 2 of the top guys in the division and came up short. now he is trying to rectify his errors in a pursuit of his dream. i got a lot of respect for Arreola's change of attitude towards the noble art

Guest Tue May 03, 2011 2:32 pm

Past caring to be honest, losing weight won't gloss over the fact Arreola is pretty average.

dbudge Tue May 03, 2011 2:54 pm

Ali wrote:Past caring to be honest, losing weight won't gloss over the fact Arreola is pretty average.

he has good power. he is a determined guy. he can take a good shot. if he had better mobility then i really think he could make things more interesting at heavyweight especially in the US where it is needed. Boxing needs hungry and dedicated fighters in the heavyweight division, not fat blown up pretenders looking for a payday. i think Arreola's quest is genuine and there's not a lot more you can ask from a fighter IMO

**GrantZilla** Tue May 03, 2011 3:06 pm

Arreola at 229 pounds

hardcorebee24 Tue May 03, 2011 3:27 pm

Every other sport does it with fat fuck athletes. The team gives an ultimatum to the fat guy to lose weight or come in at a certian weight they feel its negatively affecting his career. I think boxing promoters should and can do the same.

Guest Tue May 03, 2011 3:35 pm

Been asking for a body fat percentage to be brought into the HW division for awhile, but it'll never happen today with the incompetent buffoons who run the sport Mad

**GrantZilla** Tue May 03, 2011 3:49 pm

Again, why make a rule. HWs want to continue to be fat fucks, guess what, they'll continue to be irrelevant. Why Jabba Arreola is not even on HBO anymore, even when HBO foolishly backed him.

Shit, HWs have pretty much been blacklisted in the US because the division been such a joke.

dbudge Tue May 03, 2011 4:12 pm

GrantZilla wrote:Again, why make a rule. HWs want to continue to be fat fucks, guess what, they'll continue to be irrelevant. Why Jabba Arreola is not even on HBO anymore, even when HBO foolishly backed him.

Shit, HWs have pretty much been blacklisted in the US because the division been such a joke.

exactly. boxing isn't a team sport. a promoter isn't forced to promote a fighter and they get their cut of the purse win, lose or draw. it is only detrimental to the fighter wanting to come in out of shape. that's upto them. it's only damaging to their own Championship aspirations

powerpuncher Tue May 03, 2011 5:42 pm

dbudge wrote:
Ali wrote:Past caring to be honest, losing weight won't gloss over the fact Arreola is pretty average.

he has good power. he is a determined guy. he can take a good shot. if he had better mobility then i really think he could make things more interesting at heavyweight especially in the US where it is needed. Boxing needs hungry and dedicated fighters in the heavyweight division, not fat blown up pretenders looking for a payday. i think Arreola's quest is genuine and there's not a lot more you can ask from a fighter IMO

ive seen arreola fight a few times and he has never once impressed me. he has alright power. his punches seem heavy but he doesnt know how to throw. he takes an alright shot but thats about all. he really doesnt have a lot of skill. these HWs are so bad these days that people like arreola can be seen as a good fighter even though in reality he isnt good at all.

ScottLevinson Tue May 03, 2011 8:10 pm

Here's what I'm thinking with Arreola. When the guy is in shape, he can bring the heat like not many other heavyweights can. If he can get in shape, iron out a kink or two, he could just position himself well to figure into the post-Klitschko era. I don't think he ever beats one of the K brothers, but I don't think his cause is as lost as some may believe.

**captainanddew** Tue May 03, 2011 9:59 pm

ScottLevinson wrote:Here's what I'm thinking with Arreola. When the guy is in shape, he can bring the heat like not many other heavyweights can. If he can get in shape, iron out a kink or two, he could just position himself well to figure into the post-Klitschko era. I don't think he ever beats one of the K brothers, but I don't think his cause is as lost as some may believe.

can someone teach him how to throw a right hand. Watching him throw one is painful.

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