Call me Crazy but i think Canelo beats Floyd at 154

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Call me Crazy but i think Canelo beats Floyd at 154

Post  BoxingGenius on Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:58 pm

i have never picked against floyd, but at 154lbs i think canelo actually KOs him. floyd is very small for 154 when he fights there he weighs in on fight night at right around 154lbs. canelo on the other hand is a very big very strong jr mw who weighed in at 172 lbs vs trout. thats a very significant weight difference. floyds legs arent what they used to be which is why i think he wont be able to keep canelo off of him for 12 rounds. hes small so canelos punches will do a lot of damage when they land. cotto touched him up at 154, and canelo is faster and hits harder than miguel. i think floyd would be dumb to take a fight vs canelo unless there is a rehydration clause because the size advantage makes it flat unfair. at 147 canelo is a corpse so that doesnt really work either. this is not me thinking canelo is some unstoppable force, but at this point in time, i think he handles floyd at 154. id be very interested in that fight if it goes down. if floyd was able to beat him with no special stipulations, i think itd be his most impressive win to date IMO.

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Re: Call me Crazy but i think Canelo beats Floyd at 154

Post  Diego408 on Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:20 am

Possibly, but he will need to take a lot of risks and come in excellent shape. If Canelo tries to fight at a distance he will lose bad. He needs to get into mid range and try to catch Floyd by throwing punches in bunches. The man I think that can possibly beat Floyd is Carlos Molina. I'd bet a lot of money on that fight.
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Post  powerpuncher on Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:06 am

i could only see canelo winning because of age, not size. floyd would be so much quicker and smarter that canelo wouldnt be able to do much. canelos conditioning doesnt seem great either. i guess we will see how he looks against guerrero first.
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Post  powerpuncher on Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:07 am

Diego408 wrote:Possibly, but he will need to take a lot of risks and come in excellent shape. If Canelo tries to fight at a distance he will lose bad. He needs to get into mid range and try to catch Floyd by throwing punches in bunches. The man I think that can possibly beat Floyd is Carlos Molina. I'd bet a lot of money on that fight.
while i do think that molina may be the best at 154 right now, i dont think his style does well against floyd. he has almost no power and would fight the fight at floyds pace.
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Re: Call me Crazy but i think Canelo beats Floyd at 154

Post  dmar5143 on Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:18 pm

the division is a poor one and Molina isn't much in my thoughts.
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Post  powerpuncher on Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:00 am

dmar5143 wrote:the division is a poor one and Molina isn't much in my thoughts.
my thing is that molina has a better resume and wins than trout or canelo and maybe any other top 154 pounder. he fought chavez jr twice early in his career with one draw and one loss although most think that he won both of those fights. he also loses a close decision to alvarado early in his career.

more recently though, he got robbed of a win against lara who is a solid fighter at that weight. he easily beat cintron who was past his best but still a solid win (and he beat him before canelo got to him). he then was easily beating kirkland but was DQ'd because of his corner which was just a terrible call. although he was knocked down in that round, i really didnt feel like he was in that much trouble to get KO'd at all. then he just easily beat spinks who is also past his best but is still a solid fighter.

im not saying that molina is awesome but he is good. i would say that he is definitely better than cotto (at this point of his career), ishe, lara, bundrage, and vanes. i am pretty confident that he is better than trout and it would be a toss up between him and canelo.
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Re: Call me Crazy but i think Canelo beats Floyd at 154

Post  Diego408 on Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:33 pm

powerpuncher wrote:
dmar5143 wrote:the division is a poor one and Molina isn't much in my thoughts.
my thing is that molina has a better resume and wins than trout or canelo and maybe any other top 154 pounder. he fought chavez jr twice early in his career with one draw and one loss although most think that he won both of those fights. he also loses a close decision to alvarado early in his career.

more recently though, he got robbed of a win against lara who is a solid fighter at that weight. he easily beat cintron who was past his best but still a solid win (and he beat him before canelo got to him). he then was easily beating kirkland but was DQ'd because of his corner which was just a terrible call. although he was knocked down in that round, i really didnt feel like he was in that much trouble to get KO'd at all. then he just easily beat spinks who is also past his best but is still a solid fighter.

im not saying that molina is awesome but he is good. i would say that he is definitely better than cotto (at this point of his career), ishe, lara, bundrage, and vanes. i am pretty confident that he is better than trout and it would be a toss up between him and canelo.
Exactly my point. Molina is a lot more talented than most of the guys at 154. He may not have blazing speed or great punching power, but he knows how to fight very well. His rough house style could beat a lot of fighters, it gave Lara a ton of problems and too many Lara lost in that fight. He got lucky to get a draw. Dont forget this is the guy that gave JC Chavez Jr his first ass whoopin. Im saying his punch and grab and all in your face for 12 rounds style could beat Mayweather.
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Re: Call me Crazy but i think Canelo beats Floyd at 154

Post  Gumby on Sun May 05, 2013 12:11 am

I'd take Canelo in that fight and I'm a Mayweather fan. 154 is such a disappointed division. So many fights that could be made that haven't been. Molina and Lara have gotten the short end of the stick.
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