Kirkland vs. Bundrage?
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Kirkland vs. Bundrage?
A clash with 38-year-old RING No. 8-rated IBF junior middleweight beltholder Cornelius Bundrage as early as February or March is among the options being considered for RING No. 6-rated counterpart James Kirkland, who is coming off an HBO-televised sixth-round knockout of Alfredo Angulo before what amounted to Angulo's partisan fans in Cancun, Mex., on Nov. 5.
I'd like to see it happen.
http://ringtv.craveonline.com/blog/170277-bundrage-kirkland-being-considered
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nice brawl for sure
HBO BAD!
Put Angulo vs Latimore on the under card
HBO BAD!
Put Angulo vs Latimore on the under card
gomez1012- Posts : 7452
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Don't be shocked if Bundrage is who Kirkland's handlers go after instead of rematching Molina.
GrantZilla- Posts : 9310
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Steward said it happen if Kirkland won, GBP wants a title for him, I think we see it
Molina is probably the cheaper option tho
Molina is probably the cheaper option tho
gomez1012- Posts : 7452
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It would be stupid to put in Kirkland with Molina again. Kirkland doesn't really again much from a rematch because Molina proved to be a much better fighter. I totally disagree with Max Kellerman indicating the ref robbed Kirkland from a KO which was not the case. He hit Molina with a great shot, but Molina was not hurt. Thinking as a promoter, i'd make Kirkland vs K-9 to get my guy a title shot, With eventually setting up a big money fight with Canelo Alvarez. Angulo vs Molina on the undercard. This would be a great bill.
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Diego408 wrote:It would be stupid to put in Kirkland with Molina again. Kirkland doesn't really again much from a rematch because Molina proved to be a much better fighter. I totally disagree with Max Kellerman indicating the ref robbed Kirkland from a KO which was not the case. He hit Molina with a great shot, but Molina was not hurt. Thinking as a promoter, i'd make Kirkland vs K-9 to get my guy a title shot, With eventually setting up a big money fight with Canelo Alvarez. Angulo vs Molina on the undercard. This would be a great bill.
I think Molina had been hurt earlier in the round. I don't think he was especially hurt when he went down. If you had to make me bet on whether Kirkland would KO Molina or Molina could get through the final two rounds, I would have bet on the latter.
They want the title. And Bundrage is going to be turning 39 years old. I looked it up. I knew he was old, but turns 39 next month. 39!!!
A title allows for an easy mandatory or two. Relatively safe money for Kirkland's team. Then they go for a big fight against someone like Canelo.
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I think K-9 KO's Kirkland...
flapanther2001- Posts : 2962
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I don't see why they don't just make Canelo vs. Kirkland for Mexican Independence day.
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Maybe because Kirkland sucks, was outclassed by Molina and doesn't deserve it?Hagler's Bald Head wrote:I don't see why they don't just make Canelo vs. Kirkland for Mexican Independence day.
flapanther2001- Posts : 2962
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But other than that, he should get it right?flapanther2001 wrote:Maybe because Kirkland sucks, was outclassed by Molina and doesn't deserve it?Hagler's Bald Head wrote:I don't see why they don't just make Canelo vs. Kirkland for Mexican Independence day.
Gumby- Posts : 2256
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Gumby wrote:But other than that, he should get it right?flapanther2001 wrote:Maybe because Kirkland sucks, was outclassed by Molina and doesn't deserve it?Hagler's Bald Head wrote:I don't see why they don't just make Canelo vs. Kirkland for Mexican Independence day.
powerpuncher- Posts : 2643
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flapanther2001 wrote:Maybe because Kirkland sucks, was outclassed by Molina and doesn't deserve it?Hagler's Bald Head wrote:I don't see why they don't just make Canelo vs. Kirkland for Mexican Independence day.
He's probably a juicer too. Lost in all the bullshit that went down in Texas last Saturday was the fact Kirkland refused to get a pre-fight urin test. I wonder if he gave a post-fight one, or pulled a Bum Jr and bolted out without giving one.
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grant in all fairness to chavez jr both he and rubio did not take a urine test after the fight.when all reports finaly came out it said texas simply forgot to give the test and chavez didnt bolt out of there after the fight.the sick part is in texas the test isnt mandatory from what i understand.with that alone and all the other things that happened in texas your right in calling for its abolishment.a pre fight test is a new one on me..a refusual to me is a admission of guilt .whats the big deal for it takes seconds to do that.all commisions should of at least have a minimum standard of rules that are the same.testing mandatory should be one of them.
texas i agree has plenty of strikes against them where there legitimacy is rightfully questioned.
texas i agree has plenty of strikes against them where there legitimacy is rightfully questioned.
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dmar5143 wrote:grant in all fairness to chavez jr both he and rubio did not take a urine test after the fight.when all reports finaly came out it said texas simply forgot to give the test and chavez didnt bolt out of there after the fight.the sick part is in texas the test isnt mandatory from what i understand.with that alone and all the other things that happened in texas your right in calling for its abolishment.a pre fight test is a new one on me..a refusual to me is a admission of guilt .whats the big deal for it takes seconds to do that.all commisions should of at least have a minimum standard of rules that are the same.testing mandatory should be one of them.
texas i agree has plenty of strikes against them where there legitimacy is rightfully questioned.
Yeah, I was kidding about Bum Jr bolting. But then again, he is a proven cheat.
As far as Kirkland, the exscuse was that he couldn't take a piss to provide a sample. Which is laughable. Go drink a Gator-Aid then! IF you're that dehydrated you can't take a piss during the hours before you step in the ring, you shouldn't be fighting.
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flapanther2001 wrote:Maybe because Kirkland sucks, was outclassed by Molina and doesn't deserve it?Hagler's Bald Head wrote:I don't see why they don't just make Canelo vs. Kirkland for Mexican Independence day.
Kirkland's style and attitude puts bums on the seats, sure he isn't a great all round boxer but he's dangerous. Canelo has still yet to be tested against a top Jr Middle.
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Kirkland is a draw?Hagler's Bald Head wrote:flapanther2001 wrote:Maybe because Kirkland sucks, was outclassed by Molina and doesn't deserve it?Hagler's Bald Head wrote:I don't see why they don't just make Canelo vs. Kirkland for Mexican Independence day.
Kirkland's style and attitude puts bums on the seats, sure he isn't a great all round boxer but he's dangerous. Canelo has still yet to be tested against a top Jr Middle.
flapanther2001- Posts : 2962
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flapanther2001 wrote:Kirkland is a draw?Hagler's Bald Head wrote:flapanther2001 wrote:Maybe because Kirkland sucks, was outclassed by Molina and doesn't deserve it?Hagler's Bald Head wrote:I don't see why they don't just make Canelo vs. Kirkland for Mexican Independence day.
Kirkland's style and attitude puts bums on the seats, sure he isn't a great all round boxer but he's dangerous. Canelo has still yet to be tested against a top Jr Middle.
exactly. Since when is Kirkland a draw.
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flapanther2001 wrote:Kirkland is a draw?Hagler's Bald Head wrote:flapanther2001 wrote:Maybe because Kirkland sucks, was outclassed by Molina and doesn't deserve it?Hagler's Bald Head wrote:I don't see why they don't just make Canelo vs. Kirkland for Mexican Independence day.
Kirkland's style and attitude puts bums on the seats, sure he isn't a great all round boxer but he's dangerous. Canelo has still yet to be tested against a top Jr Middle.
Canelo is a draw, mix that with Kirkland's style and you'll create some buzz.
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He will be. If he keeps getting wins he will be a big draw because of his toughness and power. Its what the casual fan loves.captainanddew wrote:flapanther2001 wrote:Kirkland is a draw?Hagler's Bald Head wrote:flapanther2001 wrote:Maybe because Kirkland sucks, was outclassed by Molina and doesn't deserve it?Hagler's Bald Head wrote:I don't see why they don't just make Canelo vs. Kirkland for Mexican Independence day.
Kirkland's style and attitude puts bums on the seats, sure he isn't a great all round boxer but he's dangerous. Canelo has still yet to be tested against a top Jr Middle.
exactly. Since when is Kirkland a draw.
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Hagler's Bald Head wrote:flapanther2001 wrote:Maybe because Kirkland sucks, was outclassed by Molina and doesn't deserve it?Hagler's Bald Head wrote:I don't see why they don't just make Canelo vs. Kirkland for Mexican Independence day.
Kirkland's style and attitude puts bums on the seats, sure he isn't a great all round boxer but he's dangerous. Canelo has still yet to be tested against a top Jr Middle.
Both Ryan Rhodes was ranked 4th when he met Canelo. What top guy has Kirkland beaten?
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hardcorebee24 wrote:Hagler's Bald Head wrote:flapanther2001 wrote:Maybe because Kirkland sucks, was outclassed by Molina and doesn't deserve it?Hagler's Bald Head wrote:I don't see why they don't just make Canelo vs. Kirkland for Mexican Independence day.
Kirkland's style and attitude puts bums on the seats, sure he isn't a great all round boxer but he's dangerous. Canelo has still yet to be tested against a top Jr Middle.
Both Ryan Rhodes was ranked 4th when he met Canelo. What top guy has Kirkland beaten?
I suppose Rhodes is decent but he was on the wrong side of 35.
Angulo.
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Interesting point by Teddy.
He showed a replay from Kirkland/Molina. Kirkland went down in the round and it was called a slip.
Teddy believed the replay showed the punch wasn't blocked, hit Kirkland behind the ear, Kirkland fell down, and wasn't tripped. Delayed response to equilibrium per Teddy.
I'm not sure about that, but Teddy's last piece of evidence-look at Kirkland when he gets up. He doesn't look like a guy that slipped. He looked like someone that had been hurt.
He showed a replay from Kirkland/Molina. Kirkland went down in the round and it was called a slip.
Teddy believed the replay showed the punch wasn't blocked, hit Kirkland behind the ear, Kirkland fell down, and wasn't tripped. Delayed response to equilibrium per Teddy.
I'm not sure about that, but Teddy's last piece of evidence-look at Kirkland when he gets up. He doesn't look like a guy that slipped. He looked like someone that had been hurt.
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I think teddy was full of shit on that one.captainanddew wrote:Interesting point by Teddy.
He showed a replay from Kirkland/Molina. Kirkland went down in the round and it was called a slip.
Teddy believed the replay showed the punch wasn't blocked, hit Kirkland behind the ear, Kirkland fell down, and wasn't tripped. Delayed response to equilibrium per Teddy.
I'm not sure about that, but Teddy's last piece of evidence-look at Kirkland when he gets up. He doesn't look like a guy that slipped. He looked like someone that had been hurt.
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either way i believe that it should have been called a knockdown. it was by a punch but delayed. it didnt look like he tripped or anything.Soonermark890 wrote:I think teddy was full of shit on that one.captainanddew wrote:Interesting point by Teddy.
He showed a replay from Kirkland/Molina. Kirkland went down in the round and it was called a slip.
Teddy believed the replay showed the punch wasn't blocked, hit Kirkland behind the ear, Kirkland fell down, and wasn't tripped. Delayed response to equilibrium per Teddy.
I'm not sure about that, but Teddy's last piece of evidence-look at Kirkland when he gets up. He doesn't look like a guy that slipped. He looked like someone that had been hurt.
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It looked like to me that their legs were tangled right before he fell. He damn sure didnt look hurt.powerpuncher wrote:either way i believe that it should have been called a knockdown. it was by a punch but delayed. it didnt look like he tripped or anything.Soonermark890 wrote:I think teddy was full of shit on that one.captainanddew wrote:Interesting point by Teddy.
He showed a replay from Kirkland/Molina. Kirkland went down in the round and it was called a slip.
Teddy believed the replay showed the punch wasn't blocked, hit Kirkland behind the ear, Kirkland fell down, and wasn't tripped. Delayed response to equilibrium per Teddy.
I'm not sure about that, but Teddy's last piece of evidence-look at Kirkland when he gets up. He doesn't look like a guy that slipped. He looked like someone that had been hurt.
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