Roach on possible opponents for Manny

I don't get why he's happy with Khan vs Pac, how is he going to be able to prepare for a fight between two of his stable mates ?

Roach also left out the part where he's demanding the third Marquez fight at 147lb.

Why he's THE ROACH

ali the 147 parts in there..he said nope to a catchweight fight for any of the lighter guys..roach what he said about marquez is partialy true..thats the past..manny will destroy him and arum manny and freddie know that..
mosley has agreeded to terms with arum..he will approach berto and the bradley-alexander winner also and bring the 3 proposals to pacs people..

I'm sick of Roach's weight requirements. Fight bigger guys make them have catchweights. Fight smaller guys, make them come up. I am tired of it.

captainanddew wrote:I'm sick of Roach's weight requirements. Fight bigger guys make them have catchweights. Fight smaller guys, make them come up. I am tired of it.

+1 it's really devious of Freddie to ask Marquez to fight at 147lb, we all saw how poor he looked at Welterweight against Flod and it's so obvious Manny could make 140lb standing on his head.

Ali wrote:

captainanddew wrote:I'm sick of Roach's weight requirements. Fight bigger guys make them have catchweights. Fight smaller guys, make them come up. I am tired of it.

+1 it's really devious of Freddie to ask Marquez to fight at 147lb, we all saw how poor he looked at Welterweight against Flod and it's so obvious Manny could make 140lb standing on his head.

Manny has all the power. Everyone wants the lottery ticket and is willing to agree to his demands to get it. If sick of it though.

Freddie's too afraid to ask for fights below 147lb because Manny get's grump when he misses a meal

captainanddew wrote:I'm sick of Roach's weight requirements. Fight bigger guys make them have catchweights. Fight smaller guys, make them come up. I am tired of it.

...i am tired of freddie roach totaly...shut him up please.

It will be truly disgusting if they make JMM come up to welterweight. Roach talks too much.

captainanddew wrote:I'm sick of Roach's weight requirements. Fight bigger guys make them have catchweights. Fight smaller guys, make them come up. I am tired of it.

But JMM is not smaller than Manny. I see no problem with them not fighting at a catch-weight. Both will come in around 144. Both will benefit from not having to cut weight. I dont understand the issue Manny is not a real WW.

captainanddew wrote:I'm sick of Roach's weight requirements. Fight bigger guys make them have catchweights. Fight smaller guys, make them come up. I am tired of it.

Which smaller guy has Pac fought so far that came up in weight?

Canvas wrote:It will be truly disgusting if they make JMM come up to welterweight. Roach talks too much.

JMM believes in his own greatness. If so, what's the problem in fighting Pac @ WW?

Soonermark890 wrote:

captainanddew wrote:I'm sick of Roach's weight requirements. Fight bigger guys make them have catchweights. Fight smaller guys, make them come up. I am tired of it.

But JMM is not smaller than Manny. I see no problem with them not fighting at a catch-weight. Both will come in around 144. Both will benefit from not having to cut weight. I dont understand the issue Manny is not a real WW.

Amen..........

daintyhulk wrote:

Soonermark890 wrote:

captainanddew wrote:I'm sick of Roach's weight requirements. Fight bigger guys make them have catchweights. Fight smaller guys, make them come up. I am tired of it.

But JMM is not smaller than Manny. I see no problem with them not fighting at a catch-weight. Both will come in around 144. Both will benefit from not having to cut weight. I dont understand the issue Manny is not a real WW.

Amen..........

Seriously,
JMM is 5'7 67 inch reach and started his career at 125lbs. Heck he weighed 142 against Floyd.

Manny is 5'6 67 inch reach and started his career at 106lbs.

There should be zero issue with them fighting at WW. Neither guy has a size advantage so the weight shouldnt matter.

Soonermark890 wrote:

daintyhulk wrote:

Soonermark890 wrote:

captainanddew wrote:I'm sick of Roach's weight requirements. Fight bigger guys make them have catchweights. Fight smaller guys, make them come up. I am tired of it.

But JMM is not smaller than Manny. I see no problem with them not fighting at a catch-weight. Both will come in around 144. Both will benefit from not having to cut weight. I dont understand the issue Manny is not a real WW.

Amen..........

Seriously,
JMM is 5'7 67 inch reach and started his career at 125lbs. Heck he weighed 142 against Floyd.

Manny is 5'6 67 inch reach and started his career at 106lbs.

There should be zero issue with them fighting at WW. Neither guy has a size advantage so the weight shouldnt matter.

Considering that Pac now rules boxing, being the king gives him the homefield advantage. So his house, his rules. If JMM wants that retirement fund and since he has no leverage as far as purse is concerned, he should fight Pac @ 147.

Of course it does not mean that he cannot come @ a lower weight. Pac/Margo was @ 151 catchweight. Pac weighed in @ 144.5 and fight night was 148. JMM can do the same. He's running his mouth on his greatness. Talk is cheap. If you talk the talk, then walk the walk.

Soonermark890 wrote:

captainanddew wrote:I'm sick of Roach's weight requirements. Fight bigger guys make them have catchweights. Fight smaller guys, make them come up. I am tired of it.

But JMM is not smaller than Manny. I see no problem with them not fighting at a catch-weight. Both will come in around 144. Both will benefit from not having to cut weight. I dont understand the issue Manny is not a real WW.

I think you're more or less right. I STILL wish Manny would try to get to 135 for a fifth lineal title. Not gonna happen is my guess.

marbleheadmaui wrote:

Soonermark890 wrote:

captainanddew wrote:I'm sick of Roach's weight requirements. Fight bigger guys make them have catchweights. Fight smaller guys, make them come up. I am tired of it.

But JMM is not smaller than Manny. I see no problem with them not fighting at a catch-weight. Both will come in around 144. Both will benefit from not having to cut weight. I dont understand the issue Manny is not a real WW.

I think you're more or less right. I STILL wish Manny would try to get to 135 for a fifth lineal title. Not gonna happen is my guess.

I agree that would be cool. Add to the legacy of Manny Pac.

Soonermark890 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

Soonermark890 wrote:

captainanddew wrote:I'm sick of Roach's weight requirements. Fight bigger guys make them have catchweights. Fight smaller guys, make them come up. I am tired of it.

But JMM is not smaller than Manny. I see no problem with them not fighting at a catch-weight. Both will come in around 144. Both will benefit from not having to cut weight. I dont understand the issue Manny is not a real WW.

I think you're more or less right. I STILL wish Manny would try to get to 135 for a fifth lineal title. Not gonna happen is my guess.

I agree that would be cool. Add to the legacy of Manny Pac.

That'd be a "I gave JMM every edge and I STILL beat his ass, any questions" approach for Manny.

Be a hard fight to sell. People would see it as Manny picking on little guys since just got down beating up on a middleweight size opponent.

He's become a victom of his own success at the higher weights

My 2 cents:
The winner of Berto-Hernandez, Alexander-Bradley or Khan-Maidana would all make great opponents for Pacquiao. I'm probably in a minority, but I have no interest in seeing Pac fight either JMM or Mosley, give these young guys a shot.

GrantZilla wrote:Be a hard fight to sell. People would see it as Manny picking on little guys since just got down beating up on a middleweight size opponent.

He's become a victom of his own success at the higher weights

REALLY? You think JMM is a tough sell?

Soonermark890 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

Soonermark890 wrote:

captainanddew wrote:I'm sick of Roach's weight requirements. Fight bigger guys make them have catchweights. Fight smaller guys, make them come up. I am tired of it.

But JMM is not smaller than Manny. I see no problem with them not fighting at a catch-weight. Both will come in around 144. Both will benefit from not having to cut weight. I dont understand the issue Manny is not a real WW.

I think you're more or less right. I STILL wish Manny would try to get to 135 for a fifth lineal title. Not gonna happen is my guess.

I agree that would be cool. Add to the legacy of Manny Pac.

LOL @ legacy..............
How much more could he add to that @ lower weights no less?

daintyhulk wrote:

Soonermark890 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

Soonermark890 wrote:

captainanddew wrote:I'm sick of Roach's weight requirements. Fight bigger guys make them have catchweights. Fight smaller guys, make them come up. I am tired of it.

But JMM is not smaller than Manny. I see no problem with them not fighting at a catch-weight. Both will come in around 144. Both will benefit from not having to cut weight. I dont understand the issue Manny is not a real WW.

I think you're more or less right. I STILL wish Manny would try to get to 135 for a fifth lineal title. Not gonna happen is my guess.

I agree that would be cool. Add to the legacy of Manny Pac.

LOL @ legacy..............
How much more could he add to that @ lower weights no less?

he's the only guy in history to win four lineal titles. You don't think a fifth would mean something?

Henry Armstrong went feather-welter-light and Bob Fitzsimmons went middle-heavy-light.

Not to Mexican fans, but to the casual fan, yeah.

Casual fan is still griping that he's not fighting Mayweather, Pac fighting a guy he's already fought twice, at a lowerweight could end up not being a easy sell.

Not like Pac's first two fights with JMM brought in massive PPV numbers. I know this was Pre-Oscar, but still.