Top Rank puts bounty on Donaire's head

Just exactly how many black eyes does boxing need?

I always thought the purse was what was supposed to "encourage the fighter to compete"

lol he took a lot of money and did not fight.50 000..donaire 700 000...50k is a huge payday huh.STFU.

This whole fiasco has been blown way out of proportion.

Hagler's Bald Head wrote:This whole fiasco has been blown way out of proportion.

Copying Dana White and his bonuses.

Just dont pick an over matched opponent next time

gomez1012 wrote:

Hagler's Bald Head wrote:This whole fiasco has been blown way out of proportion.

Copying Dana White and his bonuses.

Just dont pick an over matched opponent next time

He will, Arce is already being fattened for the sacrifice.

Arce or Nishioka at 122 Im good with

Dont pick WV2

El Travieso will put up a better fight than most expect him to

gomez1012 wrote:Arce or Nishioka at 122 Im good with

Dont pick WV2

El Travieso will put up a better fight than most expect him to

Nishioka would be a great choice, Arce will get obliterated by Donaire.

Arce might get blasted, but even Vic couldnt stop him, he'll be aggressive and make Nonito brawl. I like the fight

Nishioka vs Nonito would be great why it wont happen

nishioka vs donaire is the fight that needs to be made. i dont think it will happen though. nishioka is too high risk for a top rank fighter

gomez1012 wrote:

Hagler's Bald Head wrote:This whole fiasco has been blown way out of proportion.

Copying Dana White and his bonuses.

Just dont pick an over matched opponent next time

I dont think Narvaez was overmatched, he just decided to not fight. The first 3 rounds he did well. I actually scored rounds 2 and 3 for Narvaez. He was winning the fourth also until Donaire hurt him and he went in a shell for the rest of the night. He was just scared of getting knocked out. The bounty is not really needed, fighters get paid big to come and fight. Hopefully they make Donaire vs Nishioka with Arce vs Vazquez on the undercard next.

Diego408 wrote:I dont think Narvaez was overmatched, he just decided to not fight. The first 3 rounds he did well. I actually scored rounds 2 and 3 for Narvaez. He was winning the fourth also until Donaire hurt him and he went in a shell for the rest of the night. He was just scared of getting knocked out. The bounty is not really needed, fighters get paid big to come and fight. Hopefully they make Donaire vs Nishioka with Arce vs Vazquez on the undercard next.

Come on, it was a featherweight vs a true flyweight

Narvaez knew if he opened up he'd get laid out. Roy said it over and over that Narvaez was there to cash a check after interviewing him before the fight.

Obviously he tested the waters vs Donaire first few rounds but once tasted Nonito's power knew he was in trouble if he got caught

My point is Narvaez was a safe choice since he was smaller and there to be nothing but an opponent, he's world class in his own division and wasnt going to get KTFO.

If Top Rank puts Donaire in with a true 118-122 lb fighter they put up a better effort and no bonus needed

gomez1012 wrote:

Diego408 wrote:I dont think Narvaez was overmatched, he just decided to not fight. The first 3 rounds he did well. I actually scored rounds 2 and 3 for Narvaez. He was winning the fourth also until Donaire hurt him and he went in a shell for the rest of the night. He was just scared of getting knocked out. The bounty is not really needed, fighters get paid big to come and fight. Hopefully they make Donaire vs Nishioka with Arce vs Vazquez on the undercard next.

Come on, it was a featherweight vs a true flyweight

Narvaez knew if he opened up he'd get laid out. Roy said it over and over that Narvaez was there to cash a check after interviewing him before the fight.

Obviously he tested the waters vs Donaire first few rounds but once tasted Nonito's power knew he was in trouble if he got caught

My point is Narvaez was a safe choice since he was smaller and there to be nothing but an opponent, he's world class in his own division and wasnt going to get KTFO.

If Top Rank puts Donaire in with a true 118-122 lb fighter they put up a better effort and no bonus needed

He was already put against the best 118 fighter and he knocked him out in 2. No way could Vic, Moreno, Agbeko and mares beat Montiel. Montiel was even heavier than Donaire on fight night. Im just saing none of these fighters from 118 and below can give him a good fight. Donaire can only challenege himself now at 122 to 126. I think He'd knock out that chump Juanma right now.

If the fights dont happen we dont know that

Montiel KO'd Hasegawa but still never faced those guys - Vic, Mares, Agbeko, Perez

Dont forget Showtime wanted both of them in the tourney

Same for Donaire, lacks competition on his resume

Darchinyan's resume trumps his

gomez1012 wrote:If the fights dont happen we dont know that

Montiel KO'd Hasegawa but still never faced those guys - Vic, Mares, Agbeko, Perez

Dont forget Showtime wanted both of them in the tourney

Same for Donaire, lacks competition on his resume

Darchinyan's resume trumps his

Vic and Montiel were both in the top 10 p4p list and Donaire took them both out with career highlight Knock outs. As it is Donaire has beat the #1 ranked fighters at 112 (Vic), 115 (Narvaez) and 118 (Montiel). And of course they wouldnt be in the tourney as Arum doesnt like doing anything for boxing besides making himself money by keeping it in the house. If he fights Nishioka next that will be the fourth fighter he fights thats ranked #1 in his division. You cant knock Donaires competition with that said.

Am I the only one who likes the idea? I have always thought that there should be a incentive for winning. Not just taking the payday and losing. Fight to win more money. Sounds good to me.

Also I dont see anyone who will compete with Donaire right now.

Soonermark890 wrote:Am I the only one who likes the idea? I have always thought that there should be a incentive for winning. Not just taking the payday and losing. Fight to win more money. Sounds good to me.

Also I dont see anyone who will compete with Donaire right now.

Yeah. It's not them ripping off White. White ripped the idea off from boxing. That's how purses use to be. The winner got a higher purse, 60/40.

Diego408 wrote:Vic and Montiel were both in the top 10 p4p list and Donaire took them both out with career highlight Knock outs. As it is Donaire has beat the #1 ranked fighters at 112 (Vic), 115 (Narvaez) and 118 (Montiel). And of course they wouldnt be in the tourney as Arum doesnt like doing anything for boxing besides making himself money by keeping it in the house. If he fights Nishioka next that will be the fourth fighter he fights thats ranked #1 in his division. You cant knock Donaires competition with that said.

Fourth fighter????? wtf random stat is that?

Top Rank will go the safe route with either Arce or WV2

Arce will atleast come to fight.

As I keep saying, nobody forced Narvaez to move up and fight Donaire. Why are you guys defending Narvaez pathetic efforts but not Haye's? Haye was much smaller then Wlad then Narvaez was to Donaire.

GrantZilla wrote:

Soonermark890 wrote:Am I the only one who likes the idea? I have always thought that there should be a incentive for winning. Not just taking the payday and losing. Fight to win more money. Sounds good to me.

Also I dont see anyone who will compete with Donaire right now.

Yeah. It's not them ripping off White. White ripped the idea off from boxing. That's how purses use to be. The winner got a higher purse, 60/40.

I can agree with that, in fact it should be like that. I'm not clear on this whole "bonus" thing being proposed anyway - do they only get it if they win, or do they get it if they're just "competitive"? And who defines that?

Bonsuss are just like clauses or bonuses in other sports. Like NFL if a back get's a certain number of yards, they get extra pay bonus, ect, ect

So just depends on what kind it is. But sounds like this one is just yeah, just becing competitive and not trying to surive just to get a paycheck and not get KO'd.

gomez1012 wrote:

Diego408 wrote:Vic and Montiel were both in the top 10 p4p list and Donaire took them both out with career highlight Knock outs. As it is Donaire has beat the #1 ranked fighters at 112 (Vic), 115 (Narvaez) and 118 (Montiel). And of course they wouldnt be in the tourney as Arum doesnt like doing anything for boxing besides making himself money by keeping it in the house. If he fights Nishioka next that will be the fourth fighter he fights thats ranked #1 in his division. You cant knock Donaires competition with that said.

Fourth fighter????? wtf random stat is that?

Top Rank will go the safe route with either Arce or WV2

Its not a random stat. Donaire has fought guys who were ranked #1 at their divisions (even though Navaez came up 3 rounds). By Ring and Fat man Dan, they had Vic at #1 in Flyweight, Narvaez #1 at Jr Bantamweight and Montiel #1 at Bantamweight. Nishioka is ranked #1 at Jr Feather weight by Ring and Fatman too. Im expecting Nishioka to be next, the Arce fight isnt as relevant. I guess we'll see who it is, but Arce is more likely. Im still hoping Arum gets Vazquez Jr his rematch with Arce instead.

Significant wins

Vic W's- Yhonny Perez, Thomas Rojas, Jorge Arce, Cristian Mijares, Dimitri Kirilov, Luis Maldonado, Irene Pacheo

Tough L's - Agbeko, Mares, Nonito

Nonito W's - Vic & Montiel
L' - 2nd pro fight

Not even close man

Narvaez is out of his division, shouldnt even give credit for that

Why you making a big deal about Narvaez moving up to Bantam? A whopping three fucking pound difference.

It's why moving up in horse jockey divisions I don't consider that big of a deal. Not when you got divisions seperated on whether a fighter took a shit before getting on the scales.

Yeah, if he was moving up from Light HW to Cruiser, that's a big jump