Lara-Martirosyan?

they could of eliminated the box off and said either one is a manditory now for sept 15...

dmar5143 wrote:they could of eliminated the box off and said either one is a manditory now for sept 15...

but then canelo wouldnt get another easy payday.

These guys should fight in Antarctica

It won't happen both are promoted by TR and GB.

Ali wrote:It won't happen both are promoted by TR and GB.

It wont happen because Vanes doesnt fight Top 20 guys.

SlickMoney wrote:

Ali wrote:It won't happen both are promoted by TR and GB.

It wont happen because Vanes doesnt fight Top 20 guys.

LIES VANES IS THE FUTURE !!!

SlickMoney wrote:

Ali wrote:It won't happen both are promoted by TR and GB.

It wont happen because Vanes doesnt fight Top 200 guys.

fixed

SlickMoney wrote:

Ali wrote:It won't happen both are promoted by TR and GB.

It wont happen because Vanes doesnt fight Top 20 guys.

so true.

Vanes beat Joe Greene (who was just a prospect like Vanes). June 2010.

Since then: 4 fights, 4 journeymen. 2 years and a month, 4 freaking fights. from age 24 to 26.

all Vanes has done for 2 years is talk about fights on twitter or to any boxing writer that would listen.

Like 3 years ago vanes would talk very tough on boxingscene buy I never hear of the bum anymore since he ducked Angulo and embarrassed himself to the world. We will never see Vanes in a big fight, hes always going to be a nobody. Sooner or later some bum is going to upset him by KO. He ain't fighting Lara btw

Lara has to fight a title eliminator to fight Canelo, but a blown up 140 pounder just gets the fight with Canelo right away???

Pathetic...

hillsicc303 wrote:Lara has to fight a title eliminator to fight Canelo, but a blown up 140 pounder just gets the fight with Canelo right away???

Pathetic...

thats how it works now. the best in the division has to earn his way up to fight the protected fighter, but nobodies can be worthy to fight the protected fighter as long as they jump up 2 weight classes to do it.

powerpuncher wrote:

hillsicc303 wrote:Lara has to fight a title eliminator to fight Canelo, but a blown up 140 pounder just gets the fight with Canelo right away???

Pathetic...

thats how it works now. the best in the division has to earn his way up to fight the protected fighter, but nobodies can be worthy to fight the protected fighter as long as they jump up 2 weight classes to do it.

It's about name recognition. Victor Ortiz is a well known fighter because he entered his pro career with a lot of hype, has had a highly visible career, has been in exciting fights, and recently fought Mayweather. People know who he is. Josecito beat him in an entertaining fight which through the transitive principle means that people now know Josecito. Lara is the nobody. All he has going is that he's the best fighter with the best resume available to face Canelo, which actually makes him less likely to get a crack at Canelo than a regular nobody.

Gumby wrote:

powerpuncher wrote:

hillsicc303 wrote:Lara has to fight a title eliminator to fight Canelo, but a blown up 140 pounder just gets the fight with Canelo right away???

Pathetic...

thats how it works now. the best in the division has to earn his way up to fight the protected fighter, but nobodies can be worthy to fight the protected fighter as long as they jump up 2 weight classes to do it.

It's about name recognition. Victor Ortiz is a well known fighter because he entered his pro career with a lot of hype, has had a highly visible career, has been in exciting fights, and recently fought Mayweather. People know who he is. Josecito beat him in an entertaining fight which through the transitive principle means that people now know Josecito. Lara is the nobody. All he has going is that he's the best fighter with the best resume available to face Canelo, which actually makes him less likely to get a crack at Canelo than a regular nobody.

I find it to be bullshit. Name recognition. Canelo is getting what 1.5 million at least to watch when he is on regular HBO. Most of that is hardcore fans (like us), and Canelo's mexican/mexican american fans. Who will watch Canelo vs Lara? hardcore fans and Canelo's mexican/mexican american fans.

The hardcore and the semi-regular boxing fans know Lara as well as they know Lopez. Canelo's Mexican/Mexican american fans are tuning in no matter what. Lopez is not going to add much to the number of viewers.

It is all about keeping the Canelo cash machine going. They have an excuse every single fight why he doesn't face a guy that fights in the same weight class that isn't shot or old.

good points captain.you sumed up whos watching the fight and the name recognition perfect..yes its looking more and more at least for now that alvarez is protected.smart matchmaking that show a competitive fight on the surface..

they planned on PPV originally.

PW or Ortiz would add to that if it were PPV. Much more than Lara. But when it goes to regular showtime at this late date, Lopez isn't adding much over Lara. The same basic groups that were tuning in would tune in for either fight.

It already is a big Mexican/Mexican american holiday weekend. There is going to be big viewership.

I'm glad that Lopez is getting another payday (hopefully a huge one).

captainanddew wrote:The hardcore and the semi-regular boxing fans know Lara as well as they know Lopez. Canelo's Mexican/Mexican american fans are tuning in no matter what. Lopez is not going to add much to the number of viewers.

It is all about keeping the Canelo cash machine going. They have an excuse every single fight why he doesn't face a guy that fights in the same weight class that isn't shot or old.

My bad, I thought that was implied. The purpose of the fight is for Canelo to win and for HBO to get decent viewership. Josecito brings the same if not more viewership than more dangerous opponents and will make Canelo look good.

hillsicc303 wrote:Lara has to fight a title eliminator to fight Canelo, but a blown up 140 pounder just gets the fight with Canelo right away???

Pathetic...

Pathetic as it is, Hillsicc, lets not forget Josesito earned the shot legitimately.

I don't like it either, a 140-lber fighting a still untested Canelo.

I mean exactly what questions will be answered here?

koolkc107 wrote:

hillsicc303 wrote:Lara has to fight a title eliminator to fight Canelo, but a blown up 140 pounder just gets the fight with Canelo right away???

Pathetic...

Pathetic as it is, Hillsicc, lets not forget Josesito earned the shot legitimately.

I don't like it either, a 140-lber fighting a still untested Canelo.

I mean exactly what questions will be answered here?

Sorry Lopez didn't earn a damn thing. I'm happy he gets another payday. But beating a 147 pound fighter shouldn't earn you a shot at 154 pound fighter.

Lara or Molina earned it by fighting damn good fighters at 154.

captainanddew wrote:

koolkc107 wrote:

hillsicc303 wrote:Lara has to fight a title eliminator to fight Canelo, but a blown up 140 pounder just gets the fight with Canelo right away???

Pathetic...

Pathetic as it is, Hillsicc, lets not forget Josesito earned the shot legitimately.

I don't like it either, a 140-lber fighting a still untested Canelo.

I mean exactly what questions will be answered here?

Sorry Lopez didn't earn a damn thing. I'm happy he gets another payday. But beating a 147 pound fighter shouldn't earn you a shot at 154 pound fighter.

Lara or Molina earned it by fighting damn good fighters at 154.

Yes, he earned it.

Josesito was supposed to be the stepping stone to get Ortiz to Canelo. Instead, Lopez won.

He earned with his two hands the right to the spoils that were waiting for Victor.

Sorry, but though I hate the matchup as much as anyone, I would hate the opportunity being taken away from Lopez even more.

He DID earn it.

Actually Josesito earned what could be considered an even more golden opportunity even if it was unlikely to be enforced. He won the WBC silver welterweight belt which puts him in line for the WBC welter title against Floyd. He might've been able to win the full WBC title by beating the Aydin-Ghost winner being that Floyd is indisposed right now.

koolkc107 wrote:

captainanddew wrote:

koolkc107 wrote:

hillsicc303 wrote:Lara has to fight a title eliminator to fight Canelo, but a blown up 140 pounder just gets the fight with Canelo right away???

Pathetic...

Pathetic as it is, Hillsicc, lets not forget Josesito earned the shot legitimately.

I don't like it either, a 140-lber fighting a still untested Canelo.

I mean exactly what questions will be answered here?

Sorry Lopez didn't earn a damn thing. I'm happy he gets another payday. But beating a 147 pound fighter shouldn't earn you a shot at 154 pound fighter.

Lara or Molina earned it by fighting damn good fighters at 154.

Yes, he earned it.

Josesito was supposed to be the stepping stone to get Ortiz to Canelo. Instead, Lopez won.

He earned with his two hands the right to the spoils that were waiting for Victor.

Sorry, but though I hate the matchup as much as anyone, I would hate the opportunity being taken away from Lopez even more.

He DID earn it.

The bold might be the worst case of pretzel logic I've ever seen in my life.....

Vane telling Canelo he needs to "step up"

http://tinyurl.com/6megg9e

Only in boxing

flapanther2001 wrote:

koolkc107 wrote:

captainanddew wrote:

koolkc107 wrote:

hillsicc303 wrote:Lara has to fight a title eliminator to fight Canelo, but a blown up 140 pounder just gets the fight with Canelo right away???

Pathetic...

Pathetic as it is, Hillsicc, lets not forget Josesito earned the shot legitimately.

I don't like it either, a 140-lber fighting a still untested Canelo.

I mean exactly what questions will be answered here?

Sorry Lopez didn't earn a damn thing. I'm happy he gets another payday. But beating a 147 pound fighter shouldn't earn you a shot at 154 pound fighter.

Lara or Molina earned it by fighting damn good fighters at 154.

Yes, he earned it.

Josesito was supposed to be the stepping stone to get Ortiz to Canelo. Instead, Lopez won.

He earned with his two hands the right to the spoils that were waiting for Victor.

Sorry, but though I hate the matchup as much as anyone, I would hate the opportunity being taken away from Lopez even more.

He DID earn it.

The bold might be the worst case of pretzel logic I've ever seen in my life.....

i agree. when you have a tune up fight, it doesnt mean that the winner faces the champion. it means that if YOU win, you face the champion. if the other guy wins, its an upset and maybe raise their stock a little. lopez now has opportunity at 140 to be the man. why put him 2 weight classes above what he is just to lose?