THE WBC WEEKLY DESTRUCTION OF BOXING

yes its weekly..a lemiex-rubio fight has been declared a manditory defense for the winner of the chavez jr vacant title fight..when does the madness stop ..when does a constant outcry from ALL players involved in the sport start..neither guy first i feel is not a legit top ten fighter in there division yet its a mandatory..and a chavez is not a legit 10 ten contender either...again manditories should be abolished because the penality of stripping someone is constant...
now the wbc has order a LH manitory between diacou vs henry to fight pasqual but the generously gave pascual a ok to fight bo-hop or dawson first..well at least all are legit top ten contenders but why is cloud missing out on the manditory..why is he passed over..who is next weeks manditory..hollifield.

i agree that mandatories are a joke. it seems like half of the mandatory challengers arent even top 10 guys. i dont know how it even all works out. do they just pick a name out of a hat and say, this is your mandatory? they probably do something like that.

How do they choose mandatories? I do not understand how another title holder or a consensus top fighter cannot be considered a mandatory.

dmar, you see why I preach The Ring belt. You can call it "just a magazine" all you want. It's best out there RIGHT NOW.

If fighters ignored these fucking disgrace sanctioning bodies, it'd mean less sanctioning fees, and some of them would go bankrupt. And maybe it'll be path to good sanctioning body.

Hell, if you think having a sanctioning body is a must, then let it be the IBO belt.

ill agree they all should go away..one legit strong honest effective commision is needed..and a ranking commision consisting of the folks i said ..the ring belt will be the only belt given by this commision because of long tradition..yes ring is just a magazine..they have zero authority and have zero offical capacity and always have since day one..wishing all fighters to ignore all commisions is unrealistic and never will happen..as stated tons of times they need to be forced out legaly..we are not in disagreement they are bad for boxing..the examples given are just a few reasons why..and it will stay that way untill all involved in any capacity unite along side strong worldwide unity and strong legislation to get ride of them..

That will never happen. Why do think they are all in third world countries? Because the IBF is based in the US, it has been in constant legal trouble. Got hit with Federal rackateering charges, and even had court appointed monotir to view what they deemed as a corrupt orginization. IBF President Robert Lee Snr got sent to prison for taking bribes.

Can bet same being happening to WBC and WBA if they were in US and not protected in third world countries.

Only way to get rid of them is not allowing them to sanction fights in key states, like Nevada, Texas, California, and New York.

But if even that happened, they'll still sancation fights in other countries that they probably bribe.

No, if media and networks and fans just ignored them, fighters stop going for the belts. Why would they if didn't give them TV dates and recognition?

grant the old saying is toss enought shit against the wall maybe some of it will stick..thats your arguement..first all the state boxing commisions are attached to the wbc the wba or both and or another orginaztion..simple statements to a complex problem dont work..secondly these commisions are international type of business..if a bribe by a promoter is given to the wbc wba and its proven and it happened in the usa they can and will be processacuted..second how are they bribing other countries including mexico..wheres your proff..to bribe a country the president the dollar amount better be in millions something they dont have..several million if its going beyound mexico..
for ever boxer that says i want the ring belt we read ten boxers praising the wbc belt and others and happy there fighting for that belt..that cannot be denide since we read it constant..
mayweather gave up a belt cause of excessive fees.400 000 worth..if he planed to fight 3 times over 2 years thats 1.2 million in his pocket..thats why he gave up the belt..not the reason he dont care for it..if the fees were 10 thousand he would of kept the belt.
yes if everyone in boxing ignored them it would make them go away..it takes everyone which will never happen..your simply 100 percent against the idea of one effective ruling body one strong legalized commision to have final say in the sport .that works in other sports but your against it..the poeples champ and a magazine is the way to go..there is nothing there to prevent other orginazations to start up again...by ignoring all ive said can work providing all commisions world wide plus tv the fighters the promoters become a signature to the contract with strong legilative and legal contracts thats enforceable in the courts..did you forget that or you wish to ignore it by and with your obvious hatred for such a commision and obvious love for a magazine that has never had a legal offical capacity at all..zero..nor should they..even ring knows there just a magazine.and there occupational lisence says that..there tax filings says that.therefore they are saying that...
marciano ali and severeal other fighters have testified several times before congress that a universal one regulatory body is needed.ONE only..they know more about the inner workings of the fight game then you i or this entire forum will ever know..
will your idea of simply just ignoring or my idea of legal ignoring of them or anyone elses ideas ever fully be inplemented at all..NOOOO .thats the bottom line.everyone heres for just about the same thing..one real champ per division noo stripping of titles one belt only and hopefully no manditories that imply a penality..if that were to become a reality which is unlikely unfortunetly then the question is how do you enforce it..how do you prevent originaztions from forming again and gaining some foothold..its done not by simply ignoring but by enforceable strong legal contract with all involved are a signature to permenetly...
if you testified before congress or a worldwide body and said the solution is simple..just recognize rings belt and ratings as offical and all involved tv the fighters the promoters and all the commisions that are reginal just ignore them..ignore them volintarily and they will go away..100 percent by all just ignore they would laugh you out of the place..thats fact not a insult to you..

dmar5143 wrote:secondly these commisions are international type of business..if a bribe by a promoter is given to the wbc wba and its proven and it happened in the usa they can and will be processacuted..second how are they bribing other countries including mexico..wheres your proff..to bribe a country the president the dollar amount better be in millions something they dont have..several million if its going beyound mexico..

Mexican Government can't even run their own country and you know Don Jose kisses but with Mexican officials, considering always been known the WBC favors Mexican fighters. How Chavez Jr is # 1 ranked Middleweight. Not to mention it's a fact fact WBC took bribes by Don King

for ever boxer that says i want the ring belt we read ten boxers praising the wbc belt and others and happy there fighting for that belt..that cannot be denide since we read it constant..

And I just told you why that is. 99% of boxers will never get The Ring belt. They got more then a better chance at getting crappy trinket. So of course going to kiss that trinket's ass and pretend they are a world champion. Not to mention their promoter likely in bed with certain originization. Like Warren in bed with WBO, so of course all his fighters go for that belt.

That works in other sports but your against it..the poeples champ and a magazine is the way to go..there is nothing there to prevent other orginazations to start up again...

What, you think for instance NHL is only hockey league in the world? Let's see, you got Mongolia Hockey League, Singapore National Ice Hockey League, Thai World Hockey League, Malaysia Ice Hockey Federation, Chinese Taipei Ice Hockey Federation, All-Japan Ice Hockey Championship, ect.

What, you think NFL is the only league for American football? You have the German Football League, in Japan got the X-League, in Italy you have the Italian Football League, in Poland you have Polish American Football League, ect.

NFL, like NBA, like MLB are US based leagues only.

Point is, outside those countries, nobody gives a fuck about those leagues. You don't see media recognizing them in the US like media and networks do for bullshit ABC belts with history of corruption and are based in 3rd world countries.

powerpuncher wrote:i agree that mandatories are a joke. it seems like half of the mandatory challengers arent even top 10 guys. i dont know how it even all works out. do they just pick a name out of a hat and say, this is your mandatory? they probably do something like that.

think of a mandatory challenge as an item in an auction. it goes to the highest bidder

I'd also add this, the UFC is not a governing body in MMA. Like The Ring being "just a magzine" the UFC is "just a promotional company" like any other MMA orgs. They have no significant control as far as the sport is concerned. They can sign top fighters and dominate the sport, but when they fight in Nevada, Nevada's commission governs. When they fight in California, same thing.

In fact, as of now they can't have fights in New York because the New York Athletic Commission has not approved the sanctioning of MMA fights.

That's same with the ABC belts. They are not the ones that sanction fights, it's the States that do.

But look how the UFC become synonymous with MMA. People consider UFC Champs the real Champs of MMA.

Same can be