Martinez vs. Murray

captain.i agree and hope he retires..

Martinez gave up a few rounds for trying to get Murray to open up. It was a mistake. He shouldnt have given away any rounds early in the fight. I had Martinez up by 1 point because he took rounds 11 and 12. Martinez won those rounds with the jab, which he forgets to throw in the rounds he loses. If Martinez kept up the jab for every round, he would have won easily. If in the 10th, if the ref counted the KD against Martinez, I would have had it a draw on my scorecard. Murray did not catch a break there. The fight was so close it could have went either way. Some of the Floyd fans boys on ESPN said murray got robbed, BS. I always like to think my scorecards are fair and accurate, so I do not believe this was even warrants the word Robbery. It was bad judging, but many had Martinez up. I can also see why some scored it for Murray, the fight was that close.

Martinez was thinking of pulling out 3 weeks before the fight due to a bad knee, but I think the pressure of fighting at home and selling very well is why he went on with the fight. Not only did he hurt his knee again, he broke his left hand. Martinez is out for the rest of the year. I think He will fight once next year, twice will be pushing it, but Martinez is going to have to retire soon. If he fights Chavez jr or Golvkin, they will stop him late. Kid Chocolate cant beat tonight version of Martinez. Thats why he stays fighting guys like Fernando Guerrero instead of taking on Golovkin in a unification match, which he turned down months ago.

Martinez injuries will retire him.

diego im confused by some of the things you said.i agree Martinez trying to get murray to open up and not using the jab more may of cost him a round or so.but not early.i don't recall Martinez giving away any early rounds.early to me means rounds 1-4..second I agree no way was that a robbery.a close fight yes.i disagree that the judgeing was poor.i gave murray the benefit of the doubt in round 4.had I not I would have Sergio the winner by 2 points or if I scored the round even a winner by 1 point like you did.
who cares what the espn Floyd fans on espn say.my experience there tells me 85 percent of them are morons.like roger says they don't know shit about boxing.
finaly yes Sergio in all likelihood broke his hand again.reinjuring his knee again and will be out for the rest of year.where did you read that.thats a 8-9 or more month layoff yes a problem with the knee as captain said kim reported 3 weeks before the fight but he didn't say a reinjury.do you mean during the fight he injured it again.

I also agree that the injuries may retire him.

I just read that dibella said its a 90 percent chance Sergio wont fight again this year.refering to the hand injury..deigo ill accept that Sergio hurt his knee again in training since it was reported he thought about delaying the fight ...that I guess for sure it means knee problems.now I understand better your post.

dibella tweeted a picture with sergio's left arm in a sling and left hand all wrapped up. Said he had seen a specialist and it was fractured.

He said Roy Jones was correct. Early in the fight (believe it was the 2nd round), Martinez's left hit Murray's elbow and fractured it.

dmar5143 wrote:I just read that dibella said its a 90 percent chance Sergio wont fight again this year.refering to the hand injury..deigo ill accept that Sergio hurt his knee again in training since it was reported he thought about delaying the fight ...that I guess for sure it means knee problems.now I understand better your post.

Yeah sorry about that, I read the news on twitter. I should have put my source in there. 90% means he wont fight this year. Its hard to see martinez ever recovering from his injuries and being the same fighter he once was. If I was Martinez I'd retire. Unless they pay him a ton of money for a Golovkin fight. Give Martinez a year to recover fully from his injuries and he actually trains hard, he can still beat Golovkin and possibly even make the HOF with that victory. I just think he needs to end his career on a high note to be cement his legacy in boxing. Martinez really is a spectacular fighter, he just came on too late in his career.

dibella says there was still lingering issues with the knee. About 3 weeks prior to the fight, it wasn't doing well. Would have pulled out, but for size of the event, etc...

a promoter always says these kind of things. Then again, Martinez had surgery, is 38, and tried to fight 6 months later. At his age, his knee isn't going to be the same. His hand isn't going to be the same.

i think sergios injuries are being exaggerated a bit to help ease the blow of his lackluster performance. hes supposedly going to sit out the remainder of the year meaning he'll be 40 next fight if im not mistaken. hes not getting any younger or faster, and with his fighting style so heavily relying on reflexes, hes going to come crashing down to earth in a big way if he fights a puncher with decent speed i think. golovkin would really hurt him at this point i think, im curious to see who they match him up against going forward.

unfortunetly the injuries are not exaggerated.it will take 6-8 weeks for the break to heal and 8-10 weeks of rehab.dibella said surgery again on the knee will happen also.

BoxingGenius wrote:i think sergios injuries are being exaggerated a bit to help ease the blow of his lackluster performance. hes supposedly going to sit out the remainder of the year meaning he'll be 40 next fight if im not mistaken. hes not getting any younger or faster, and with his fighting style so heavily relying on reflexes, hes going to come crashing down to earth in a big way if he fights a puncher with decent speed i think. golovkin would really hurt him at this point i think, im curious to see who they match him up against going forward.

I would have thought the injuries were exaggerated, but there were a few writers who intimated on twitter that they had heard from reliable sources that Martinez was not 100% prior to the fight occurring.

Still haven't seen the fighter, but I hope he takes a fight with Golovkin and sets the stage for Golovkin to become the star Martinez never was but should've been (assuming Golovkin wins, which I think he would).

Unlike a lot of skilled fighters, Martinez has guile and heart to scrape out tough wins. If the fight was exciting I don't think Martinez should retire anymore than Murray should, but obviously I'll have to watch the fight.