FLOYD NOW NUMBER 1

fat dan who has very respectable ratings has now put floyd as the top welter in the world..i can understand why of course.

dmar5143 wrote:fat dan who has very respectable ratings has now put floyd as the top welter in the world..i can understand why of course.

His big win over Victory Ortiz?

P4P number 1 also on Shamu's list.

jz_hova wrote:

dmar5143 wrote:fat dan who has very respectable ratings has now put floyd as the top welter in the world..i can understand why of course.

His big win over Victory Ortiz?

..lets see first saying i understand doesnt mean i agree.yes mayweathers win even the way it ended .i felt that ending robbed mayweather of what would of been a dominate performance.combine that with a pac loss which by a large majority of the boxing experts as well as the fans feel it was a pac loss dispite what the scorecards read is more then reason enough for fat dan to say floyds now number one.

I agree that Floyd should be # 1. Pac got # 1 spot by default to begin with because of Floyd being removed from most respected lists for in-activity.

It just amazes me how so many so called hardcore fans continue to confuse P4P with divisional rankings. They are not the same.

Divisional rankings resume plays a major part within the division on where you are ranked. P4P is pure fantasy list ranking who the best fighter is.

Is anyone outside PacTards going to argue now that Pac is a better skilled fighter than Mayweather?

To me its a no brainer. Pac got a split decision over a lightweight at welterweight and Floyd KO'd a top five welter.

GrantZilla wrote:I agree that Floyd should be # 1. Pac got # 1 spot by default to begin with because of Floyd being removed from most respected lists for in-activity.

It just amazes me how so many so called hardcore fans continue to confuse P4P with divisional rankings. They are not the same.

Divisional rankings resume plays a major part within the division on where you are ranked. P4P is pure fantasy list ranking who the best fighter is.

Is anyone outside PacTards going to argue now that Pac is a better skilled fighter than Mayweather?

I thought this was the smart boxing board. you are basing the P4P from 1 fight.

here is the body of work in the same period of time 2010 til now (where is Flod more active?)

Clottey, Margo, Shane, JMM >>> Mosley, Ortiz

jz_hova wrote:I thought this was the smart boxing board. you are basing the P4P from 1 fight.

here is the body of work in the same period of time 2010 til now (where is Flod more active?)

Clottey, Margo, Shane, JMM >>> Mosley, Ortiz

Obviously you're the one that's not very smart. Why don't you take some reading comprehension. What part of P4P not being the same as divisional rankings do you not understand here?

P4P is a FANTASY list of who is the best fighter P4P! Divisional rankings is based off of resume.

This is why Donaire was on the P4P list but was ranked like 6th at Bantam before he fought Montiel. P4P he was a great fighter but before Montiel his resume at Bantam was lacking.

GrantZilla wrote:

jz_hova wrote:I thought this was the smart boxing board. you are basing the P4P from 1 fight.

here is the body of work in the same period of time 2010 til now (where is Flod more active?)

Clottey, Margo, Shane, JMM >>> Mosley, Ortiz

Obviously you're the one that's not very smart. Why don't you take some reading comprehension. What part of P4P not being the same as divisional rankings do you not understand here?

P4P is a FANTASY list of who is the best fighter P4P! Divisional rankings is based off of resume.

This is why Donaire was on the P4P list but was ranked like 6th at Bantam before he fought Montiel. P4P he was a great fighter but before Montiel his resume at Bantam was lacking.

I quoted YOU saying that Flod was dropped off of the P4P due to inactivity. i pointed out that he has 2 fights in 2 years. How is he active? Anyone can look skilled fighting Ortiz and over the hill Mosley. Flod did nothing against Ortiz to move ahead of Pac on this Fantasy list, because if he did then he would have moved up after the Ortiz fight. Can wait until Pac knock Flod out to shut you clowns up

So you're on recored saying Pac is a better more skilled fighter than Mayweather?

GrantZilla wrote:So you're on recored saying Pac is a better more skilled fighter than Mayweather?

he had 1 human night against someone that he never looked good against. Lets see his next fight before we call him shot
geezus

jz_hova wrote:

GrantZilla wrote:So you're on recored saying Pac is a better more skilled fighter than Mayweather?

he had 1 human night against someone that he never looked good against. Lets see his next fight before we call him shot
geezus

You didn't answer my question. Yes or no, Pac is P4P a better fighter than Mayweather?

GrantZilla wrote:

jz_hova wrote:

GrantZilla wrote:So you're on recored saying Pac is a better more skilled fighter than Mayweather?

he had 1 human night against someone that he never looked good against. Lets see his next fight before we call him shot
geezus

You didn't answer my question. Yes or no, Pac is P4P a better fighter than Mayweather?

I would have to see Flod against better opposition than Ortiz to have an answer for you. i need to see Flod fight twice a year to answer that for you

GrantZilla wrote:

jz_hova wrote:

GrantZilla wrote:So you're on recored saying Pac is a better more skilled fighter than Mayweather?

he had 1 human night against someone that he never looked good against. Lets see his next fight before we call him shot
geezus

You didn't answer my question. Yes or no, Pac is P4P a better fighter than Mayweather?

I will say it. Pac is the better p4p fighter.

Soonermark890 wrote:

I will say it. Pac is the better p4p fighter.[/quote]

Well ok then. I totaly disagree. And the JMM fight has show Pac has not improved as much as people thought and that he's not on the same level as Mayweather.

I had Mayweather beating Pac long before the JMM fight. Now, I don't think it'll even be a competitive fight.

GrantZilla wrote:

Soonermark890 wrote:I will say it. Pac is the better p4p fighter.

Well ok then. I totaly disagree. And the JMM fight has show Pac has not improved as much as people thought and that he's not on the same level as Mayweather.

I had Mayweather beating Pac long before the JMM fight. Now, I don't think it'll even be a competitive fight.

I think he will ko mayweather. See to me flod and jmm are not the same fighter at all. I see Pac as the worst possible opponent for Floyd but hell I could be wrong.

Mayweather is a bigger and better version of JMM.

GrantZilla wrote:Mayweather is a bigger and better version of JMM.

See and I don't think they are at all.

Soonermark890 wrote:

GrantZilla wrote:Mayweather is a bigger and better version of JMM.

See and I don't think they are at all.

Then why was JMM out-classed by Mayweather at Welter but gave Pac hell at the same weight?

Soonermark890 wrote:

GrantZilla wrote:Mayweather is a bigger and better version of JMM.

See and I don't think they are at all.

You don't think that Mayweather is better than Marquez? He shut him out. So where does that leave Pac? Marquez must be better than him also.

hardcorebee24 wrote:

Soonermark890 wrote:

GrantZilla wrote:Mayweather is a bigger and better version of JMM.

See and I don't think they are at all.

You don't think that Mayweather is better than Marquez? He shut him out. So where does that leave Pac? Marquez must be better than him also.

fighter A whoops fighter B and fighter B lost close decision to fighter C does not mean fighter A beats fighter C

jz_hova wrote:

hardcorebee24 wrote:

Soonermark890 wrote:

GrantZilla wrote:Mayweather is a bigger and better version of JMM.

See and I don't think they are at all.

You don't think that Mayweather is better than Marquez? He shut him out. So where does that leave Pac? Marquez must be better than him also.

fighter A whoops fighter B and fighter B lost close decision to fighter C does not mean fighter A beats fighter C

...and that's what I like about the sport. LOL.

jz_hova wrote:fighter A whoops fighter B and fighter B lost close decision to fighter C does not mean fighter A beats fighter C

Except fighter A and fighter B fight in a similar style except fighter A is superior at the style.

As the saying goes, styles makes fights. And Mayweather and JMM are both technical boxers/counterpunchers which Pacy no likey.

GrantZilla wrote:

Soonermark890 wrote:

GrantZilla wrote:Mayweather is a bigger and better version of JMM.

See and I don't think they are at all.

Then why was JMM out-classed by Mayweather at Welter but gave Pac hell at the same weight?

Lets see flod comes in at whatever weight he wants. Also that entire argument sucks. Pac made Hatton look like his bitch. Pac killed Oscar. Pac also beat Shane up. So he must kill flod easily right? No that's not the case. Flod and jmm are not the same fighter.

jz_hova wrote:

hardcorebee24 wrote:

Soonermark890 wrote:

GrantZilla wrote:Mayweather is a bigger and better version of JMM.

See and I don't think they are at all.

You don't think that Mayweather is better than Marquez? He shut him out. So where does that leave Pac? Marquez must be better than him also.

fighter A whoops fighter B and fighter B lost close decision to fighter C does not mean fighter A beats fighter C

I was questioning why someone would say that Marquez is better than Mayweather. Didn't Mayweather prove he was better than Marquez? I meant if losing to Floyd makes you better than him then Marquez must be twice as good as Pacquiao since he lost to him twice. I was attacking the logic here.