David Haye: Wladimir is a coward, I'm done with him!

NO David boxing fans are done with you. You have backed out 3 times on fights with the klits. You sir are the coward.

Soonermark890 wrote:NO David boxing fans are done with you. You have backed out 3 times on fights with the klits. You sir are the coward.

+1

Unfortunately for Mr. 13, Wlad is the lineal champ and Haye is just a trinket holder.

"I'm done with him" = "I will retire next year, then unretire when both brothers are done."

I'd do point by point comments on the article written on boxingscene and the quotes attributed to the Savior, but it is pointless. He is just plain delusional about many things.

Did you hear the bullshit of Haye bitching about how Wlad wanted to enter the ring last, and have his name first on all the promotion, and be in the red corner?

Seriously, I realy fucking hate Haye now. Wlad is The Champ. Haye a worthless trinket holder. He shouldn't even have the WBA trinket, since Wlad beat Chageav and should've gotten it.

Un-freaking-believable

and yet not unexpected!

13 is a wonderful example of the kinds of things wrong with my beloved sport in 2011.

I am done with Wladimir, he'd rather fight a domestic level opponent than a top three heavyweight.

marbleheadmaui wrote: 13 is a wonderful example of the kinds of things wrong with my beloved sport in 2011.

Yup. Him and Mayweather represent what I hate about today's boxing.

Adamek, JMM, Martinez represent what I love about the sport.

Ali wrote:I am done with Wladimir, he'd rather fight a domestic level opponent than a top three heavyweight.

WRONG. He wanted to fight in April, Haye didn't want to because of Sky. So Wlad wants to take a tune-up fight so he won't be in-active for 9 months, and then fight Haye. Haye could do the same.

But Haye got a problem with that. Wlad already missed out on fights waiting for Haye. I don't blame him for not wanting to sit around waiting.

Stop being a delusional fanboy Ali

GrantZilla wrote:

Ali wrote:I am done with Wladimir, he'd rather fight a domestic level opponent than a top three heavyweight.

WRONG. He wanted to fight in April, Haye didn't want to because of Sky. So Wlad wants to take a tune-up fight so he won't be in-active for 9 months, and then fight Haye. Haye could do the same.

But Haye got a problem with that. Wlad already missed out on fights waiting for Haye. I don't blame him for not wanting to sit around waiting.

Stop being a delusional fanboy Ali

I am not being delusional I just don't agree with peoples opinion on this matter. Wladimir once again couldn't compromise for the good of the sport.

I am washing my hands of this division, MMA's is far more entertaining.

Comprise? Wlad is the fucking Heavyweight Champ. Haye is nobody. What comprimise.

You would be outraged if this was Calzaghe and some US challenger was pulling the same shit. In fact, I know you would be.

Wlad already sat around and missed out on fights waiting for Haye. He doesn't want to be in-active for 9 months.

You bitch about fighters being in-active, and yet blindly are against Wlad wanting a tune-up before fighting Haye in the summer.

July 2nd was on the table, Wladimir doesn't need to waste time facing Chisora in April he should have just agreed to go straight into the most lucrative fight in the division.

This is another example of this sport going down the toilet.

Ali wrote:I am done with Wladimir, he'd rather fight a domestic level opponent than a top three heavyweight.

LOL, yeah WLAD's the problem. I mean heck, after all he's only fought eight ranked guys in the last three years.

Good luck selling THAT to any objective thinker.

Whatever Ali. You are being total hypocrit.

I remember you exscusing why Calzaghe didn't fight Hopkins and Jones Jr in their primes. How both them refused to fight Calzaghe, Super Middle Champ, in Wales. And how Hopkins kept putting up road blocks and why the fight didn't happen.

Like I said, if Wlad was UK HW Champ and Haye was US challenger, you'd be outraged at his demands and arrogance.

Why should David Haye play second fiddle to Derek Chisora ? lets say he agrees and then Chisora ends up catching Wladimir on that vulnerable chin, David would be left without that lucrative fight.

This is arguably the second biggest fight that can be made in boxing right now, a date was on the table and all the terms had been agreed upon and yet Wladimir declined. Would it really have been too much to wait an extra couple of months to set up the biggest fight in the division ?

Boxing continues to shoot itself in the foot

GrantZilla wrote:Whatever Ali. You are being total hypocrit.

I remember you exscusing why Calzaghe didn't fight Hopkins and Jones Jr in their primes. How both them refused to fight Calzaghe, Super Middle Champ, in Wales. And how Hopkins kept putting up road blocks and why the fight didn't happen.

Like I said, if Wlad was UK HW Champ and Haye was US challenger, you'd be outraged at his demands and arrogance.

What a load of untrue garbage, it's got completely nothing to do with nationalities or patriotic pride.

The hell it doesn't. How is it any different.

You support Haye demanding the fight be in the UK, that get's 50/50 cut, ect against HW Champ.

Yet stated Calzaghe had right to demand to fight in Wales where he could bring a larger audience, because he was Super Middleweight Champ.

Hell, I remember you bitching about Mosley being in-active after his win over Margs because he was looking for a payday fight. Stating he should've fought somone., and that the in-activity would cost him.

Wlad will have been in-active almost longest time in his entire career waiting for the Haye fight. He wanted it in April, Haye said no because of Sky, so Wlad wants a tune-up fight.

Haye is the one that walked away from the deal, not Wlad.

GrantZilla wrote:The hell it doesn't. How is it any different.

You support Haye demanding the fight be in the UK, that get's 50/50 cut, ect against HW Champ.

Yet stated Calzaghe had right to demand to fight in Wales where he could bring a larger audience, because he was Super Middleweight Champ.

Hell, I remember you bitching about Mosley being in-active after his win over Margs because he was looking for a payday fight. Stating he should've fight somone., and that in-activity would cost him.

Wlad will have bee in-active almost longest time in his career waiting for the Haye fight. He wanted it in April, Haye said no because of Sky, so Wlad wants a tune-up fight.

Haye is the one that walked away from the deal, not Wlad.

I never agreed that fight should have to be staged in the UK, I said I'd prefer to see it here because they have better crowds in Manchester and London. I could care less where it's staged as long as the fight got made.

When did I state Calzaghe could demand Roy Jones and Hopkins should travel to Wales to fight him ? I've never once said that, you've must have misinterpreted something I said back on ESPN.

Wladimir's inactivity isn't on par with Shane Mosley sitting out a year, he fought in September and if his body had remained healthy he would've fought in December. Shane Mosley choose to remain inactive for a year. Waiting a couple of extra months isn't going to create ring rust all over his body, Wladimir sparred during camp for the Chisora fight.

He doesn't need a tune up for the biggest fight in the division, that's nonsense. Wladimir had the chance to sign for July 2nd but instead walked away.

Look at all the articles on this mess and you'll see a common phrase used " Wladimir Didn't"

I fail to see the problem when Wlad stated he would fight Haye afterwords. What's the problem? He's getting off a injurry and wants a tun-up. That's fair.

Haye may be content with fighting once a year. The Klits aren't. Vitali wants to fight 4 times this year.

And yes you did have a problem with Jones Jr demanding that Calzaghe who was The Champ, fight him in the US. And I agreed with you.

Haye by far worse diva in boxing. He makes MAyweather look humble.

GrantZilla wrote:I fail to see the problem when Wlad stated he would fight Haye afterwords. What's the problem? He's getting off a injurry and wants a tun-up. That's fair.

Haye may be content with fighting once a year. The Klits aren't. Vitali wants to fight 4 times this year.

And yes you did have a problem with Jones Jr demanding the Calzaghe who was The Champ, fight him in the US. And I agreed with you.

Haye by far worse diva in boxing. He makes MAyweather look humble.

Like I said earlier there isn't a dire need for a tune up, as you pointed out both brothers are quite active so waiting a couple of extra months for the biggest fight in the division isn't going to suddenly deteriorate Wladimir's body.

There is also the danger of Wladimir losing or receiving an injury in that tune up, he could get a cut that requires stitches or break his hand.

The fans are crying out for this fight to be made, it was on the table and instead Wladimir chooses to waste time with Derek Chisora of all people, just for once it be nice to a boxer compromise for the good of the sport.

Haye vs Wlad, Floyd vs Manny, JMM vs Pac III this sport is really frustrating to be a fan of.

Again, Wlad is the Champ. He's never ducked anyone. He has earned the right to dictate the terms.

Who the fuck is Haye to say otherwise. He's the challenger. Wlad wanted to fight in April, Haye said no because Sky, so Wlad wants to stay busy and not rust. He's not a young fighter anymore.

Wlad has already missed out on fights and stayed in-active because of Haye, and clearly doesn't trust that he won't do it again.

It was because Haye pulled out when they were originaly suppose to fight because of a "back injurry" that Wlad stayed in-active for almost seven months until he was able to get a last minute replacement with Chageav.

Staying active and fighting how they make millions. Sitting around waiting for fucking Haye makes them nothing. Especialy when got track record of pulling out of fights.

To be fair on both men the real culprit here is Sky Sports, would it really be so hard for them to move back or push forward Khan's ppv ? Golden Boy too they promote both guys so surely they could adjust the schedules.

Ugh this whole scenario is a nightmare, I'd give anything to have back the 90's heavyweight division.

Oh and just for the record I don't agree with Haye's statement in that article, but I can understand his frustration.

Ali wrote:Ugh this whole scenario is a nightmare, I'd give anything to have back the 90's heavyweighivision.

You mean when Bowe decide to throw his belt in the trash then fight Lewis. I guess Lewis is to blame for that fight not happening.

Come on. Be real here.

And you can think MMA is better all you want. It's not. How'd Fedor vs Brock workout?

Top two HWs in MMA will never fight, Velasquez and Fedor. Hell, not even # 1 and # 3 will ever fight, Velasquez vs Werdum. Or even # 1 and #4, Velasquez vs Overeem.