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Post  Groundhog Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:13 am

No link, completely unsubstantiated lol. Could Cyclops help Maidana, or would trying to teach Maidana some craft be time wasted? Cyclops was in Mathysse's corner when he almost beat Zab. Mathysse is pretty much a Maidana clone, complete with homemade ink, and Cyclops was able to get him to be just a little more measured in his approach.

Miguel Diaz said in an interview that he does very little with Maidana in terms of technique. He even said something along the lines of "Maidana has little to no skill, so we don't even focus on that. Instead, we focus on conditioning, conditioning, conditioning."

You think Maidana could learn some finer points of boxing or would he just be uncoachable in that area?

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Post  GrantZilla Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:25 am

Musical trainers is not a good idea. I think Oscar would been better fighter had just stuck with one trainer.

But in this case, I don't see how it could hurt.
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Post  Guest Tue Dec 14, 2010 6:47 am

you dont make a fighter into something he is not.ray leanord tried that for example with a good promising LH years ago named andrew maynard.the result was a disaster..maidanas trainer made a ignorant statement..you work with your fighters style..1.maidana needs to learn how to duck and slip punches while moving foward instead of having his face becoming a catchers mit..2.he needs improvement on how to effectively cut the ring off instead of playing follow the leader.3.work on him returning blows fast as he slips punches..thoses are 3 areas in which this trainer should consintrate on or else his fighters career will be short lived as a top tier fighter in that divison.
all thoses can be developed and improved greatly and not change his fighters style or makeup.films of marciano dempsey basilio will be of great help in communicating to his fighter how this makes him more effective and dangerous..his statement on conditioning is a joke.conditioning should be a given for any trainer...i would advise usualy against a change in trainers but in maidanas case or paviks i would say doo it..

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Post  Guest Tue Dec 14, 2010 6:48 am

you dump any trainer who implies his fighter has NO skill..

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Post  Gumby Tue Dec 14, 2010 12:32 pm

In my opinion Maidana has made some serious improvements in every fight I've seen him in. I even think he came into the Khan fight with the right gameplan. Khan just took more steam out of him in the 1st half of the fight than he could overcome.

I don't think any trainer could keep Maidana from getting hit repeatedly and outboxed by Khan.
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Post  gomez1012 Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:07 pm

He easily could. Look at the difference he made with Lucas Matthysse who was almost KO'd by Vivian Harris

Cyclops was ringside Saturday night IIRC
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Post  hardcorebee24 Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:08 pm

So Abraham's trainer says he has no heart and now Maidana's trainer says he has no skill? Cyclops should take them both in and create a powerhouse stale to destroy all of boxing. While he's at it he should go after Arreola too and put him on Sergio's diet and make him a star too. Cyclops for President.
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Post  Guest Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:18 pm

Maidana needs to hook up with Cyclops pronto !!! Miguel Diaz spent the majorty of the Khan fight whining to Cortez instead of giving Maidana instructions, and during the build he made it pretty clear they had no gameplan for Khan other than hope to clip him.

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Post  gomez1012 Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:20 pm

hardcorebee24 wrote:So Abraham's trainer says he has no heart and now Maidana's trainer says he has no skill? Cyclops should take them both in and create a powerhouse stale to destroy all of boxing. While he's at it he should go after Arreola too and put him on Sergio's diet and make him a star too. Cyclops for President.

The X-Men?
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Post  hardcorebee24 Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:26 pm

gomez1012 wrote:
hardcorebee24 wrote:So Abraham's trainer says he has no heart and now Maidana's trainer says he has no skill? Cyclops should take them both in and create a powerhouse stale to destroy all of boxing. While he's at it he should go after Arreola too and put him on Sergio's diet and make him a star too. Cyclops for President.

The X-Men?

That is fucking perfect. Arreola is Beast, Maidana is Logan, Abraham is Ice man, Maravilla is Gambit and Cyclops is well...Cyclops.
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Post  Guest Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:33 pm

Matthyse is Night Crawler.

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Post  hardcorebee24 Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:36 pm

Ali wrote:Matthyse is Night Crawler.

Perfect with the Rat Tail and all. Nice one Ali!!!!
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Post  Guest Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:40 pm

We still need a professor Xavier.


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Post  hardcorebee24 Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:45 pm

Ali wrote:We still need a professor Xavier.

DiBella!!!!!!!

Heard a rumor that Cyclops wants to work with Maidana ProfessorxHeard a rumor that Cyclops wants to work with Maidana Loudibella
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Post  Diego408 Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:46 pm

Ali wrote:We still need a professor Xavier.

Now thats Lou DiBella lol
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Post  Diego408 Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:47 pm

hardcorebee24 wrote:
Ali wrote:We still need a professor Xavier.

DiBella!!!!!!!

Heard a rumor that Cyclops wants to work with Maidana ProfessorxHeard a rumor that Cyclops wants to work with Maidana Loudibella
ahahahahaah you beat me to it lol
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Post  Guest Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:52 pm

LMAO

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Post  hardcorebee24 Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:55 pm

Diego408 wrote: ahahahahaah you beat me to it lol


Then it is complete, make them all train out of Westchester county and destroy boxing. Wow, what a stable if he could put that together.
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Post  gomez1012 Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:59 pm

Diego408 wrote:
hardcorebee24 wrote:
Ali wrote:We still need a professor Xavier.

DiBella!!!!!!!

Heard a rumor that Cyclops wants to work with Maidana ProfessorxHeard a rumor that Cyclops wants to work with Maidana Loudibella
ahahahahaah you beat me to it lol

LOL nice
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Post  Guest Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:00 pm

Now we need the X-Men's rivals

Magneto
Sabbertooth
Pyro
Sinistro
Apocalypse
Juggernaut

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Post  hardcorebee24 Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:02 pm

Ali wrote:Now we need the X-Men's rivals

Magneto
Sabbertooth
Pyro
Sinistro
Apocalypse
Juggernaut

That's all you bro. I'll emoticon and lol all day in response to what you put together. But I will say that Al Haymon is a great candidate for Magneto.
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Post  Guest Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:06 pm

Valuev for Sabbertooth since he's already got the back hair sorted out.

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Post  Groundhog Tue Dec 14, 2010 6:34 pm

wow you guys really ran with this. yall are too much lol.

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Post  UBeeg9cats Tue Dec 14, 2010 7:10 pm

Ali wrote:Now we need the X-Men's rivals

Magneto
Sabbertooth
Pyro
Sinistro
Apocalypse
Juggernaut

If I can join in and maybe take this too far, ODLH is Magneto for being a rival promoter of Xavier that occasionally will do his fighting for himself (I think ODLH could come back). Sabertooth has to rival Maidana somehow. I could see Urango filling that spot nicely. I don't have one for Pyro. Sinister is obsessed with Cyclops. I will go with Paul Williams being that he felt Cyclops's rage/predictive powers. Apocalypse I consider to be the ultimate evil which has to be PBF or Haymon. I will go with Vitali being Juggernaut the way he ran over Beast.

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Post  Diego408 Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:04 pm

Groundhog wrote:wow you guys really ran with this. yall are too much lol.

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hahahahahahah thats great

Magneto- Haymon fits
Sabbertooth- I agree with Valuev
Pyro- Pavlik
Apocalypse- Flomo
Juggernaut- Wlad
The Blob- Arreola
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