Heavyweight Boxing Trivia

ScottLevinson wrote:In 1962, Sonny Liston KO'd Floyd Patterson for the Heavyweight Title. He weighed 213 pounds. Name the last fighter before Liston to win the Heavyweight Title weighing over 200 pounds.

What heavyweight made the most amount of money in purses without ever having won a heavyweight title?

ScottLevinson wrote:In 1962, Sonny Liston KO'd Floyd Patterson for the Heavyweight Title. He weighed 213 pounds. Name the last fighter before Liston to win the Heavyweight Title weighing over 200 pounds.

What heavyweight made the most amount of money in purses without ever having won a heavyweight title?

gomez1012 wrote:

ScottLevinson wrote:In 1962, Sonny Liston KO'd Floyd Patterson for the Heavyweight Title. He weighed 213 pounds. Name the last fighter before Liston to win the Heavyweight Title weighing over 200 pounds.

What heavyweight made the most amount of money in purses without ever having won a heavyweight title?

Butterbean! (just a guess)

ScottLevinson wrote:Butterbean probably made a decent piece of coin, but nowhere near the guy I'm thinking of.

Johannson often scaled over 200, just not when he beat Patterson.

Good guesses though.

ScottLevinson wrote:Yeah it was Baer, who was somewhere like 210 when he beat Carnera.

2nd one isn't that hard.

ScottLevinson wrote:I guess it could be Tua. I don't really have an official source for any of this, but I'm just assuming I'm thinking of the right guy.

I just don't think he cleared more than the guy I'm thinking of.

I actually thoght the second place guy would be Razor Ruddock, who made a bundle, especially in the 2nd Tyson fight, not to mention big paydays in the first Tyson fight, the Morrison fight, the Lewis fight, and so on. I'm pretty sure Razor made more than Tua ever did.

BoxingGenius wrote:

ScottLevinson wrote:I guess it could be Tua. I don't really have an official source for any of this, but I'm just assuming I'm thinking of the right guy.

I just don't think he cleared more than the guy I'm thinking of.

I actually thoght the second place guy would be Razor Ruddock, who made a bundle, especially in the 2nd Tyson fight, not to mention big paydays in the first Tyson fight, the Morrison fight, the Lewis fight, and so on. I'm pretty sure Razor made more than Tua ever did.

i remember hearing somewhere that tua made over 20 mil in his career, which is pretty high for someone who never won a title, i know he did make 500k for a fight back in 09 as someone mentioned above.

BoxingGenius wrote:
i remember hearing somewhere that tua made over 20 mil in his career, which is pretty high for someone who never won a title, i know he did make 500k for a fight back in 09 as someone mentioned above.

David Tua discovered he had lost control of his $20 million earnings after raiding the offices of Tuaman Inc. In court documents, he accuses Martin Pugh of forgery and misappropriating money in all directions. It is alleged hundreds of thousands of dollars went on furnishing Pugh's house and that payments were made to a company, Sports Tech, owned by Pugh associate Richard Gregory, formerly Richard Booth, who was jailed in 1995 for an insurance scam. A 50ha block at Pakiri and an inner-Auckland penthouse were not the boxer's sole property. Long-time manager Kevin Barry has sided with Pugh, accusing Tua in his affidavit of greed and dishonesty.

ScottLevinson wrote:

BoxingGenius wrote:

ScottLevinson wrote:I guess it could be Tua. I don't really have an official source for any of this, but I'm just assuming I'm thinking of the right guy.

I just don't think he cleared more than the guy I'm thinking of.

I actually thoght the second place guy would be Razor Ruddock, who made a bundle, especially in the 2nd Tyson fight, not to mention big paydays in the first Tyson fight, the Morrison fight, the Lewis fight, and so on. I'm pretty sure Razor made more than Tua ever did.

i remember hearing somewhere that tua made over 20 mil in his career, which is pretty high for someone who never won a title, i know he did make 500k for a fight back in 09 as someone mentioned above.

I just don't see in what fights Tua could have come anywhere near 20 mil. I'm sure he made nice money in those fights in his neck of the woods, like the Cameron fight and whatever. And the Lewis payday was probably a ton, just nowhere near the 8 mil number I've heard thrown around. That wasn't even PPV. Unless it was in the Australia/New Zealand area and he got some crazy cut of that action.

gomez1012 wrote:

BoxingGenius wrote:
i remember hearing somewhere that tua made over 20 mil in his career, which is pretty high for someone who never won a title, i know he did make 500k for a fight back in 09 as someone mentioned above.

Cedrick Kushner must have a chunk of it lol

gomez1012 wrote:Found this

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/phil-taylor/news/article.cfm?a_id=125&objectid=3554459

David Tua discovered he had lost control of his $20 million earnings after raiding the offices of Tuaman Inc. In court documents, he accuses Martin Pugh of forgery and misappropriating money in all directions. It is alleged hundreds of thousands of dollars went on furnishing Pugh's house and that payments were made to a company, Sports Tech, owned by Pugh associate Richard Gregory, formerly Richard Booth, who was jailed in 1995 for an insurance scam. A 50ha block at Pakiri and an inner-Auckland penthouse were not the boxer's sole property. Long-time manager Kevin Barry has sided with Pugh, accusing Tua in his affidavit of greed and dishonesty.

ScottLevinson wrote:That article notwithstanding, I would need someone to give me at least a vague rundown on how he could have possibly made 20 million dollars.

He has a handful of paydays in the hundreds of thousands area. Then 1 major payday against Lewis. I can't remember ever seeing him on PPV. I know he gets a lot of support in New Zealand, but unless he was getting 2 mil a pop to beat guys like Friday Ahunanya, there's just no way it comes out to 20 mil.

Tua's financially stricken state was also a factor in his rejection of a lowball $400,000 world title fight offer from Wladimir Klitschko last month – with tax and training and promotional expenses deducted, what little that was left would have been consumed by his outstanding debt.

ScottLevinson wrote:That article could be right, it could be wrong.

Isn't it a little hard to believe Tua made 12 million for the Lewis fight, though? It wasn't even on PPV unless I'm mistaken. And it was a semi-big fight, hardly the blockbuster that would warrant him getting a payday that exceeds what a lot bigger-time fighters made in HUGE fights.