Can anyone tell me what happened to class acts in sports?

Canvas wrote:It died, just as it did in western society as a whole. Thank the "progressives" (as they like to call themselves) for the collapse of decent parenting. Look what the ultra left wing, politically correct ativists did to Britain over the last 25 years. One of the greatest societies ever... decimated.

No installation of morals, no fear of authority, no personal accountability for one's actions, no respect for one's elders, no connection to the the functional traditions that made this society great.

No idea how to conduct the self with quiet dignity.

dmar5143 wrote:frank this will probably be my last post on this forum...as usual you came up with a well thought out post or thread that has been on my mind for a while..your examples are excellent .in general the style grace class of a sports figure is still there but in a greatly reduced number..derek jeter is an example..the problem is a massive increase in the ignorance.the lack of class style or remembering where they came from plus the lact of graditude thjat they recieved a special gift that became a oportunity of a 100 lifetimes..floyd and his family are perfect examples.so is a jerkoff called big ben and countless other thugs that call them selves sports figures..not to long ago a guy called tony gywn retired from baseball..thats respectible class..ripken has shown similar qualites also..perhaps the most beloved of all sports figures by n ot only the public but by his peers yogi berra is still around to show HOW you act as a decent person..the great duke snider also was a perfect example for ballplayers to emulate.ditto ernie banks ..rocky marciano came from a upper-lower class blue collar neighborhood.joe louis from poverty.you will find no humbler champs then thoses two.and you will find no champs who had more inner pride neither..or a bart starr in football.a gentlemans gentlemen..
yes today we can say hey theres drew brees or the great reggie white as examples of goodness also but its a huge decline..thugs punks wanna be tough guys gun toting gangsters in there minds drug addicts cheats etc etc are on the rise in huge numbers..as a society maybe as a whole we share the blame of idiolizing thses bums as heros..giving them too much praise for playing a game but flunking out in the real game called life.its disgusting...give me yogi berra phil rizzuto ernie banks bob feller anytime..values honor respect on how you conduct yourself should be eternal not old fashion.

Canvas wrote:Gumby, pulling up ones' pants to prevent ones buttocks from hanging out is not a prudish formality - it's a minimum standard of civilized decency and self respect.

GrantZilla wrote:The athletes and celebrities are the same. Nothing's changed with them.

What's changed is because 24/7 media and the internet, they longer cover up or not report on athletes and celebrities bad behavior.

In the past, the media worked with the athletes and celebrities. There was a lot of shit that was never reported. In return, the media was granted access by the leagues or studios.

Tabloids changed that. Then 24/7 news. Then the internet.You bring up Marv Hagler. The dude did coke. So did Golden Boy SRL. I've heard stories of him doing coke with bunch of hookers.

Look at Golden Boy Oscar going to rehap for sex addiction and drugs. 40 years ago, that never would have been covered. And you sure and hell wouldn't be getting Tweets from Oscar admitting his problems.

Baseball hero Ted Williams was a total dick, especialy to his own kids. Again, never widely reported.

Shit, it was known for years in the movie industry that Rock Hudson was gay. But media never reported it, because studio wanted to continue to market him as a romantic lead.

dbudge wrote:Britain's society hasn't always been prim and proper and we all live like the Queen. the negatives were just covered up to "keep up appearances". with today's media that is no longer achievable and so the ugly truth surfaces.

dbudge wrote:exactly. look at what that fat prick done. he made up a new religion so he could chuck his wife (wives) in and then chop their heads off in public. Henry VIII was a bad ass

GrantZilla wrote:

dbudge wrote:exactly. look at what that fat prick done. he made up a new religion so he could chuck his wife (wives) in and then chop their heads off in public. Henry VIII was a bad ass

Well, he did father Britian's greatest ruler. So I'll give him credit for that.

dbudge wrote:... back in the good old days when Britain ruled the World

Frank wrote:I have to make something clear. I have absolutely no concern about what a man does in privacy nor do I care to know about it. Hagler and Leonard doing cocaine is no concern to me at all. They knew how to act in public or better yet, in front of the camera. If both of them turned out to be drug addicted sex addicts, that's their business. They have a right to privacy. In my opinion, I think a public figure owes the public a class act when he is in their presence or on camera. His life is "his." As long as they're not harming anyone or forcing anyone to do something against their will, their life is none of my business as my affairs are none of theirs.

Also,someone said (and I forgot who) that athletes have a sense of entitlement that most of us will never know. If you're talking about women, speak for yourself buddy. Soonermark would agree with me.

hardcorebee24 wrote: Athletes having no class is nothing new. These guys have been catered to since they were twelve and have a sense of entitlement that none of us will ever know or experience.

GrantZilla wrote:

dbudge wrote:... back in the good old days when Britain ruled the World

USA! USA! USA!

Gumby wrote:

Canvas wrote:Gumby, pulling up ones' pants to prevent ones buttocks from hanging out is not a prudish formality - it's a minimum standard of civilized decency and self respect.

Or it's a style choice...welcome to the future.

SAN FRANCISCO -- A University of New Mexico football player, who was in the Bay Area to attend a friend’s funeral, was in custody Thursday after his citizen’s arrest by a pilot on a US Airway’s flight led to a melee with San Francisco police officers, authorities said.

San Francisco Police Sgt. Michael Rodriguez said 20-year-old Deshon Marman was told by a customer service agent to pull up his low-slung pants as he boarded a Phoenix-bound flight Wednesday morning at San Francisco International Airport

He refused and was again asked by a flight attendant as he was boarding the Phoenix-bound flight at San Francisco International Airport.

Rodriguez said Marman again refused and the attendant called the captain, who placed the 20-year-old under citizen’s arrest.

“The incident started in the boarding area prior to getting onto the aircraft,” Rodriguez said. “The customer service agent for US Airways asked the gentleman to pull his pants up which were down around his knees. She told him that (wearing his pants like that) was not going to be allowed on the aircraft.”

“He went down the jetway and was asked again to pull his pants up…The flight attendant at the door said he told her – ‘I paid for my ticket and I’m just going to do what I have to do.’ So he got onboard and sat down in his seat.”

Rodriguez said both the flight attendant and the agent said they thought it was offensive that Marman’s pants were around his knees and his underwear exposed.

The captain requested police assistance and was told to place Marman under citizen’s arrest. Marman was told to leave the plane, but a heated discussion ensued and all the other 150 passengers were removed from the aircraft.

“The officers stood by until the aircraft was emptied out,” Rodriguez said. “He came out…because of the slight struggle that he put up and not complying with the officers commands, he was wrapped in a special wrap we use to carry custodies down the jetway stairs.”

Marman was charged with trespassing for not leaving the aircraft, battery on a peace officer and resisting arrest.

The FBI had been notified, but there will be no federal charges.

Rodriguez said the other passengers were upset by the delay in their flight and the incident.

“A lot thought this could have been handled by the gentleman simply pulling up his pants – they questioned why he simply didn’t do it,” Rodriguez said.

Marman's mother, Donna Doyle, said that her son had attended a friend's funeral and he was still in an emotionally raw state.

US Airways spokeswoman Valerie Wunder says the airline's dress code forbids "indecent exposure or inappropriate" attire.