Super Six Semi Venues - So Cal and Detroit?
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Super Six Semi Venues - So Cal and Detroit?
Ward vs Abraham 5/14
Froch vs Johnson 5/21
http://twitter.com/#!/stevemaxboxing/status/35515090564431872Source tells me that Ward-Abraham on May 14th is heading to the Home Depot Center( my favorite local venue) in Carson, Ca.
Froch vs Johnson 5/21
http://twitter.com/#!/stevemaxboxing/status/35460882905436160As it relates to Froch-Johnson, the Silverdome is still in play to host it, as are the CT casino's and even Vegas on May 21
gomez1012- Posts : 7452
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Detroit. Because those damn Michigan folks can't get enough of Carl Froch and his awesome accent. Really, Detroit. How about just putting it somewhere that has alot of fight fans like California. Put a bunch of local kids on the undercard. 2 world class guys as the main event.
captainanddew- Posts : 8143
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captainanddew wrote:Detroit. Because those damn Michigan folks can't get enough of Carl Froch and his awesome accent. Really, Detroit. How about just putting it somewhere that has alot of fight fans like California. Put a bunch of local kids on the undercard. 2 world class guys as the main event.
The owners of Silverdome must be real serious about fights there
gomez1012- Posts : 7452
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I was under the impression that Ward was going to have to travel for his next fight. Fighting in Carson will be a hometown fight for him. On the other hand, if they didn't learn from the Bradley vs Alexander fight that Detroit ain't the place to be........
flapanther2001- Posts : 2962
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flapanther2001 wrote:I was under the impression that Ward was going to have to travel for his next fight. Fighting in Carson will be a hometown fight for him. On the other hand, if they didn't learn from the Bradley vs Alexander fight that Detroit ain't the place to be........
Plenty of Armenians will support Abraham in So Cal
I dont see an issue with the Ward-Abe venue
gomez1012- Posts : 7452
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[quote="gomez1012"]
Plenty of Armenians will support Abraham in So Cal
I dont see an issue with the Ward-Abe venue[/quote
Refresh my memory on the stipulated rules of the Super 6. I thought they were supposed to fight two at home each.
flapanther2001 wrote:I was under the impression that Ward was going to have to travel for his next fight. Fighting in Carson will be a hometown fight for him. On the other hand, if they didn't learn from the Bradley vs Alexander fight that Detroit ain't the place to be........
Plenty of Armenians will support Abraham in So Cal
I dont see an issue with the Ward-Abe venue[/quote
Refresh my memory on the stipulated rules of the Super 6. I thought they were supposed to fight two at home each.
flapanther2001- Posts : 2962
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flapanther2001 wrote:
Refresh my memory on the stipulated rules of the Super 6. I thought they were supposed to fight two at home each.
No idea FP, know Sho wants both semis in the US
gomez1012- Posts : 7452
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IIRC the semifinals and the final were contracted to be in America. The prelim fights were negotiable as far as I know. With 9 fights and 6 fighters, I expected 3 fighters to get 2 home fights and the others to get 1. Ward got his 2 home then another at home outside the tourney. Dirrell and Kessler both got 1 home fight before leaving the tourney. Froch and AA both got 1 home and 1 neutral. Glen and Allan fought in vegas which I guess is neutral for them. There was no 9th fight. Really the only fairer distribution is Ward-Green being at Sooner's house which I think would have done much worse in tickets and not changed the outcome.
Edited: I put Ward Abraham when I mean to put Ward-Green. I fixed it up.
Edited: I put Ward Abraham when I mean to put Ward-Green. I fixed it up.
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UBeeg9cats- Posts : 1627
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Cool...thanks for that. I really think that Ward/Abraham would do huge numbers in Germany, but if Showtime wants the fights in the U.S., oh well.UBeeg9cats wrote:IIRC the semifinals and the final were contracted to be in America. The prelim fights were negotiable as far as I know. With 9 fights and 6 fighters, I expected 3 fighters to get 2 home fights and the others to get 1. Ward got his 2 home then another at home outside the tourney. Dirrell and Kessler both got 1 home fight before leaving the tourney. Froch and AA both got 1 home and 1 neutral. Glen and Allan fought in vegas which I guess is neutral for them. There was no 9th fight. Really the only fairer distribution is Ward-Abraham being at Sooner's house which I think would have done much worse in tickets and not changed the outcome.
flapanther2001- Posts : 2962
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have froch -johnson at mohegan sun or foxwoods in ct, thats where froch-taylor took place so people will go...and by people i mean ME!!!!gomez1012 wrote:Ward vs Abraham 5/14http://twitter.com/#!/stevemaxboxing/status/35515090564431872Source tells me that Ward-Abraham on May 14th is heading to the Home Depot Center( my favorite local venue) in Carson, Ca.
Froch vs Johnson 5/21http://twitter.com/#!/stevemaxboxing/status/35460882905436160As it relates to Froch-Johnson, the Silverdome is still in play to host it, as are the CT casino's and even Vegas on May 21
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Rum Capital wrote:
have froch -johnson at mohegan sun in ct, thats where froch-taylor took place so people will go...and by people i mean ME!!!!
It sure is a better fit than Detroit
gomez1012- Posts : 7452
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yeah i edited my comment as froch-taylor took place in foxwoods. but foxwoods and mohegan sun are about half an hour from eachother. im going to foxwoods for the martinez fight and they just built the mgm grand last year so im looking forward to seeing it inside. but from watching fights at both casinos i have to say that mohegan sun is better, that's where gatti-ward took place.gomez1012 wrote:Rum Capital wrote:
have froch -johnson at mohegan sun in ct, thats where froch-taylor took place so people will go...and by people i mean ME!!!!
It sure is a better fit than Detroit
Rum Capital- Posts : 2218
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Rum Capital wrote:
yeah i edited my comment as froch-taylor took place in foxwoods. but foxwoods and mohegan sun are about half an hour from eachother. im going to foxwoods for the martinez fight and they just built the mgm grand last year so im looking forward to seeing it inside. but from watching fights at both casinos i have to say that mohegan sun is better, that's where gatti-ward took place.
sounds like a great venue for fights, that Martinez-Sergei card should be fun
gomez1012- Posts : 7452
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This is just beyond stupid, Carl already has a shitty tv deal in the UK and now his fans have to travel to Detroit for his next fight
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You know what, if these fucking idiot promoters have that fight in Detriot, I hope 3 people show up.
Have the fight in Boston. Boston crowd would love a guy like Froch. And it's got a huge local media outlet that'd love his big mouth trash talk
Have the fight in Boston. Boston crowd would love a guy like Froch. And it's got a huge local media outlet that'd love his big mouth trash talk
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GrantZilla wrote:You know what, if these fucking idiot promoters have that fight in Detriot, I hope 3 people show up.
Have the fight in Boston. Boston crowd would love a guy like Froch. And it's got a huge local media outlet that'd love his big mouth trash talk
Carl's promoter is a complete tool, he lost John Murray to Frank Warren because he can't provide Sky Sports tv spots.
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Ali wrote:Carl's promoter is a complete tool, he lost John Murray to Frank Warren because he can't provide Sky Sports tv spots.
Yeah, he sounds like a real moron. How could even consider a fight in Detriot when just coming off the joke Bradley-Alexander Detriot fight, where the lack of ticket sales overshadowed the fight?
Yeah, let's have a non US fighter and a guy that's never been a draw, go fight in povertyvill Detriot. Sure a city made up of mostly blacks will live a big mouth white Brit, and a Jamaican.
Seriously, if has to be in US, Boston or New York. It's cheap travel from UK to NEw York. Direct flight. And there's UK population there. What Khan drew on for Pauly fight.
Boston be good too because it's Froch's type of crowd. And local media there is big. They'd love to interview a guy like Froch, because need shit to fill up time, and he could provide some good punchlines. Especialy if when he brings his big mouth hottie with him.
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GrantZilla wrote:Ali wrote:Carl's promoter is a complete tool, he lost John Murray to Frank Warren because he can't provide Sky Sports tv spots.
Yeah, he sounds like a real moron. How could even consider a fight in Detriot when just coming off the joke Bradley-Alexander Detriot fight, where the lack of ticket sales overshadowed the fight?
Yeah, let's have a non US fighter and a guy that's never been a draw, go fight in povertyvill Detriot. Sure a city made up of mostly blacks will live a big mouth white Brit, and a Jamaican.
Seriously, if has to be in US, Boston or New York. It's cheap travel from UK to NEw York. Direct flight. And there's UK population there. What Khan drew on for Pauly fight.
Boston be good too because it's Froch's type of crowd. And local media there is big. They'd love to interview a guy like Froch, because need shit to fill up time, and he could provide some good punchlines. Especialy if when he brings his big mouth hottie with him.
The Silverdome owners are probably coughing up more money to host the fight.
If it has to be America at least make it Vegas, that way Carl's fans can travel to a warm climate with cheap hotel rooms.
Honestly the best move would be putting Froch vs Johnson on the Ward undercard, at least that way both fights will help sell out the venue.
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No. Vegas is even worse. That place ground zero for the recession. Only big names can draw there.
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GrantZilla wrote:No. Vegas is even worse. That place ground zero for the recession. Only big names can draw there.
Yeah but still it's a more attractive location than Detroit(no offense to anyone who lives there), and it's far more accessible for British fans to access.
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If Khan couldn't draw a crowd there, neither is Froch
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GrantZilla wrote:If Khan couldn't draw a crowd there, neither is Froch
I am not talking about gates Grant, Carl isn't going to draw anywhere outside the UK because his fan base isn't that big.
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I thought that's what we were talking about? You talking exposure and TV ratings?
Then fuck Vegas. Needs to be New York or Boston. Those two big media capitols, and where they'd get the most exposure.
Then fuck Vegas. Needs to be New York or Boston. Those two big media capitols, and where they'd get the most exposure.
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GrantZilla wrote:I thought that's what we were talking about? You talking exposure and TV ratings?
Then fuck Vegas. Needs to be New York or Boston. Those two big media capitols, and where they'd get the most exposure.
No I am talking about having a more suitable location for his fans, Vegas is easy to travel to from the UK and has alot of cheap hotels so it's not that expensive. Plus Vegas has attractive weather.
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