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Post  gomez1012 Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:23 pm

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&opt=printable&id=34925

Berto-Ortiz Would Share HBO Bill With Khan

Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer said he had just gotten off the phone with Lou DiBella, promoter for welterweight champion Andre Berto. Schaefer and DiBella are in talks for a fight between Berto and Victor Ortiz that would also take place April 16.

"We met with Victor and he is interested in that fight," Schaefer said of Ortiz, a junior welterweight whose highest weight for a fight has been 144 pounds; welterweight is 147. "Amir would be fighting in the U.K. on April 16 and then HBO would take the delay of that fight and pair it up with the live fight with Berto and Victor."

Schaefer said no site has been agreed upon, but that DiBella is hopeful of it taking place somewhere on the West Coast.
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Post  dbudge Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:31 pm

what a joke. you telling me there isn't any legitimate fights for Berto at 147lb. Ortiz hasn't even proved himself at 140lb yet, in fact all that has been proved about Ortiz is that he came up short in his most career-defining fight. HBO are just recycling name fighters. Berto should be fighting Cintron or at least somebody near to that. i just don't see how Berto is getting this treatment, i'd love it if Ortiz upset him

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Post  gomez1012 Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:51 pm

I really enjoyed this writer's take on it

Although Andre Berto is consistently linked to fights that never come close to happening–or that he rejects outright for reasons only The Great Carnacki can understand–a proposed bout with Victor Ortiz almost makes sense, or for what passes as sense in boxing these days. Boxing happenings, like poker, are often situational. If you remove the fact that Berto is the most overpaid fighter in the history of boxing, and the fact that he is facing another junior welterweight, and the fact that no one wants to see him fight in the first place, and the fact that he has yet to make a mandatory defense of the paper title he won by thrashing a policeman over two years ago, and the fact he has sidestepped several other bouts recently, then this is not a bad matchup at all.

Ever since Marcos Maidana brought out the Crackleware in him, Ortiz, who had the phrase “Discretion is the Better Part of Valor” tattooed on his bicep in the summer of 2009, has been flitting around rings with a spooked look in his eye. Even so, this promises to be an interesting bout. Both fighters have the kind of flabbergasting tics that make you wonder how they have gotten as far as they have in the professional ranks. Ortiz likes to play trampoline artist on the perimeter, bouncing to and fro for minutes on end with nary a purpose in sight; Berto loves to stick his left arm out and make little circles in the air with it like a man washing a window shield. Neither man can fight on the inside, but Ortiz is a southpaw with some crack at 140 pounds, and Berto was previously rocked by two other portsiders, Luis Collazo and faded Carlos Quintana. So perhaps this fight will be one of the few matchups in boxing with an element of surprise attached to it.

http://thecruelestsport.com/2011/01/19/sound-fury-berto-ortiz-pacquiao-gbp-strikes-again-bradley-alexander-more/
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Post  dbudge Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:58 pm

gomez1012 wrote:I really enjoyed this writer's take on it

Although Andre Berto is consistently linked to fights that never come close to happening–or that he rejects outright for reasons only The Great Carnacki can understand–a proposed bout with Victor Ortiz almost makes sense, or for what passes as sense in boxing these days. Boxing happenings, like poker, are often situational. If you remove the fact that Berto is the most overpaid fighter in the history of boxing, and the fact that he is facing another junior welterweight, and the fact that no one wants to see him fight in the first place, and the fact that he has yet to make a mandatory defense of the paper title he won by thrashing a policeman over two years ago, and the fact he has sidestepped several other bouts recently, then this is not a bad matchup at all.

Ever since Marcos Maidana brought out the Crackleware in him, Ortiz, who had the phrase “Discretion is the Better Part of Valor” tattooed on his bicep in the summer of 2009, has been flitting around rings with a spooked look in his eye. Even so, this promises to be an interesting bout. Both fighters have the kind of flabbergasting tics that make you wonder how they have gotten as far as they have in the professional ranks. Ortiz likes to play trampoline artist on the perimeter, bouncing to and fro for minutes on end with nary a purpose in sight; Berto loves to stick his left arm out and make little circles in the air with it like a man washing a window shield. Neither man can fight on the inside, but Ortiz is a southpaw with some crack at 140 pounds, and Berto was previously rocked by two other portsiders, Luis Collazo and faded Carlos Quintana. So perhaps this fight will be one of the few matchups in boxing with an element of surprise attached to it.

http://thecruelestsport.com/2011/01/19/sound-fury-berto-ortiz-pacquiao-gbp-strikes-again-bradley-alexander-more/

nice. a very honest viewpoint and one i agree with to a degree. the fight is a joke, but a more acceptable joke than Berto vs Hernandez was

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Post  Guest Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:44 pm

Nice double header.

Does that mean no more Linares for the UK undercard ?

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Post  Guest Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:48 pm

boy that writter wrote a hard hitting true article..look at all the true love he gave berto lol..

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Post  Guest Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:51 pm

TBA is the toughest S.O.B. in boxing.just look at dan rafeals rankings.TBA is fighting everyone.now its kahn.

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Post  gomez1012 Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:53 pm

Ali wrote:Nice double header.

Does that mean no more Linares for the UK undercard ?

I would think so
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Post  Diego408 Thu Jan 20, 2011 4:16 pm

dbudge wrote:
gomez1012 wrote:I really enjoyed this writer's take on it

Although Andre Berto is consistently linked to fights that never come close to happening–or that he rejects outright for reasons only The Great Carnacki can understand–a proposed bout with Victor Ortiz almost makes sense, or for what passes as sense in boxing these days. Boxing happenings, like poker, are often situational. If you remove the fact that Berto is the most overpaid fighter in the history of boxing, and the fact that he is facing another junior welterweight, and the fact that no one wants to see him fight in the first place, and the fact that he has yet to make a mandatory defense of the paper title he won by thrashing a policeman over two years ago, and the fact he has sidestepped several other bouts recently, then this is not a bad matchup at all.

Ever since Marcos Maidana brought out the Crackleware in him, Ortiz, who had the phrase “Discretion is the Better Part of Valor” tattooed on his bicep in the summer of 2009, has been flitting around rings with a spooked look in his eye. Even so, this promises to be an interesting bout. Both fighters have the kind of flabbergasting tics that make you wonder how they have gotten as far as they have in the professional ranks. Ortiz likes to play trampoline artist on the perimeter, bouncing to and fro for minutes on end with nary a purpose in sight; Berto loves to stick his left arm out and make little circles in the air with it like a man washing a window shield. Neither man can fight on the inside, but Ortiz is a southpaw with some crack at 140 pounds, and Berto was previously rocked by two other portsiders, Luis Collazo and faded Carlos Quintana. So perhaps this fight will be one of the few matchups in boxing with an element of surprise attached to it.

http://thecruelestsport.com/2011/01/19/sound-fury-berto-ortiz-pacquiao-gbp-strikes-again-bradley-alexander-more/

nice. a very honest viewpoint and one i agree with to a degree. the fight is a joke, but a more acceptable joke than Berto vs Hernandez was
This was a great summary about the situation and something that Ive been at least saying for the past few months. Something I disgree with all of you in is Berto vs Ortiz because it will be more competitive than you all believe. Ortiz has the power to knock some sense into Berto. Other than Cintron, I dont see a better fighter available for Berto than Ortiz.
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Post  Guest Thu Jan 20, 2011 8:22 pm

I actually don't mind the Ortiz fight at all, it's just overall Berto's career has been frustrating and disappointing.

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Post  Norm1023 Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:28 am

So tired of Berto. He needs to fight Aydin. He's earned his shot and Berto has put him off long enough.
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Post  Guest Fri Jan 21, 2011 11:10 am

no doubt i feel just about every boxing fan is either getting disgusted with berto or already is there..ortiz yes can pose a challenge punch wise for 4 or 5 rounds but thats it..hes slow easy to hit and gets in efficent as a fighter after that..its a better matcup then some of bertos past fights but theres 3-4-5 others not named floyd or manny thats a far more desireable fight..

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