Las Vegas

**gomez1012** Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:08 pm

This past weekend’s attendance was announced at 4,632. But that was buoyed by the fact that the Mandalay Bay offered free tickets to the fight AND a comped room. And this wasn’t an offer made just to their big players but folks, like a friend of mine, who hadn’t stayed there in a few years. And as he took up the offer, without provocation, his tickets were automatically upgraded from $150 to the $350 level.

Yet, still, you could’ve lobbed hand grenades into various sections of the Mandalay Bay Events Center and had no casualties. It’s time to start taking fights out of the stale, cocoon-of-the-casino venue and start doing some actual promoting in major league facilities. For boxing, this bubble has finally burst. It’s long been time to start cultivating local markets and replenish the boxing fan base. Ever been to a casino fight? Try finding families or younger folks who attend. See how many fans actually show up less than a half-hour before the televised bouts begin. And as Joan Guzman blew out Jason Davis early on this weekend, you had a hiatus that lasted about 50 minutes before Victor Ortiz and Lamont Peterson got into the ring. The atmosphere was as lively as a mausoleum. Unfortunately, this occurrence is not an aberration but the norm.

http://www.maxboxing.com/news/sub-lead/right-now-it-shouldnt-happen-in-vegas-or-stay-in-vegas

Just dead

Guest Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:13 pm

To be honest I don't even want Flod vs Karaoke Man in Vegas, I'd much rather see that fight take place in Arlington.

Rum Capital Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:34 pm

start bringing back fights to the east coast where they belong but not to the forsaken casinos.

**GrantZilla** Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:37 pm

Been saying this forever. Promoters been living off of TV licence fees and casino money welfair for years. We're in a recession now, and Vegas is ground zero for it. Nobody wants to go to Vegas, a town built off of robbing people blind.

Promoters don't know how to promote fights anymore, nor have they cared about attendance for a long time. It's all about big TV licence fee money.

hardcorebee24 Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:46 pm

Bad economy + the Disneyfied Las Vegas = Poor Attendance.

Let the Mob run Vegas again and we'd see huge fights.

**GrantZilla** Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:56 pm

Vegas sucks for fights now. Being from West Coast, I can admit West Coast is the worse as far as dedicated sport's fans. Not going to get crowd's on the West Coast unless your a Mexican.

**gomez1012** Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:02 pm

GrantZilla wrote:Vegas sucks for fights now. Being from West Coast, I can admit West Coast is the worse as far as dedicated sport's fans. Not going to get crowd's on the West Coast unless your a Mexican.

Promoters are just lazy

Look at Ward in Oakland, Alexander in St Louis, Adamek in Newark, Pascal/Bute in Canada, Cotto in NY, Mike Alvarado in Denver (before he went to jail), Viloria in Hawaii, etc

Local fighters in Local venues, aint that hard to figure out

**GrantZilla** Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:12 pm

4,000k showed up for Ward vs Bika,

**gomez1012** Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:16 pm

GrantZilla wrote:4,000k showed up for Ward vs Bika,

A replacement opponent, zero press in the Bay Area, on a holiday weekend

Look at other fights with name opponents

About 10k for Miranda+Kessler and around 8k for Allan Green

**GrantZilla** Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:18 pm

How many people showed up for Adamek's last fight which wasn't even telivsed?

Freddie1437 Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:23 pm

Horrible! For great fights like this, the place should've had double that!

hardcorebee24 Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:35 pm

GrantZilla wrote:How many people showed up for Adamek's last fight which wasn't even telivsed?

8500

**Tobe** Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:50 pm

Need more fights on the east coast and in places that don't usually see them (like Boston, as per the thread the other day). Make the tickets reasonable and you'll get the crowds out. Also east coast fights mean you can actually see a main event before midnight local time, which will help TV numbers and PPV buys.

Even though I don't get to as many fights as I'd like I'm spoiled living so close to Montreal right now. Need to see some smaller markets get big fights in the states.

**GrantZilla** Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:52 pm

More fights in Boston. Boston is a fight town that never get's fights anymore. WTF

Guest Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:10 pm

hardcorebee24 wrote:Bad economy + the Disneyfied Las Vegas = Poor Attendance.

Let the Mob run Vegas again and we'd see huge fights.

....lol ill guarentee you one would not be pac-mosley...and nobody would be pulling out of fights with a fake boo boo...i can see it now..co promoted by frank costello and lucky luciano..fighters like berto would not be shaking down hbo and others for ubsurb money either..

**GrantZilla** Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:12 pm

Boxers were told under Franky Carbo goons that if didn't fight who they told them to fight, they'd get their legs broken.

Guest Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:57 pm

Now is a great time to go to Vegas for a vacation - everything is cheap.

I drove there this past spring during a multi-state road trip. Stayed on the strip in a newly renovated room for $30/night, ate loads of good food for cheap prices, had no problem getting served comp drinks in the casino. If you tip someone a dollar or two, they are genuinely happy to get it because people aren't tipping.

**GrantZilla** Tue Dec 14, 2010 6:04 pm

The # 1 reason people go to Vegas is the gambling. The other things are just added in.

People not going to spend their money to vacation in some shit hole city in middle of the desert over say going to nice beaches or Hawaii ect.

With people being broke, gambling taken a hit, so Vegas is a ghost town. It's stupid to have fights there at this time.

**gomez1012** Tue Dec 14, 2010 6:07 pm

My brother in law's bday was yesterday, told me he stayed at the Luxor for 30 bucks for 2 nights and they threw in a free buffet for 2

No kidding, cheap!!!

**Soonermark890** Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:44 pm

Ali wrote:To be honest I don't even want Flod vs Karaoke Man in Vegas, I'd much rather see that fight take place in Arlington.

HELL YES then I would be able to go.

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