Can the old man win another one
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Can the old man win another one
BHop-Cloud this Saturday in the typical BHop fight with the typical questions. Can BHop win ugly? Can Cloud hold up mentally? When does Father Time finally beat the veteran? I like BHop so I'm hoping for a win but Cloud would make a good fight with Pascal or Shumenov with a win. I think he would even make a fun fight with Dawson.
UBeeg9cats- Posts : 1627
Join date : 2010-11-16
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im just not too sure on this one. hopkins has the perfect style to beat cloud. the obvious question is whether or not hopkins can still hold up especially against a very strong opponent. will cloud eventually be able to get to him and hurt him? everytime i think that father time has caught up to bhop im wrong. i think that this may be the fight where it does.
powerpuncher- Posts : 2643
Join date : 2010-10-24
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We all know what it takes to beat Hopkins. Volume punching, stamina & the ability to stay outside without allowing Hop to clinch. Does this sound like Cloud?
flapanther2001- Posts : 2962
Join date : 2010-10-27
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He can, I favor him in this fight, but I really hope not. I don't want to see Hopkins on the championship scene anymore. He drains the excitement of fighting with his hit, hold and complain to the ref style. Cloud is not very good.
Diego408- Posts : 2646
Join date : 2010-11-10
Age : 35
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BHOP will control distance, outbox, and frustrate Cloud. Cloud will have some moments, but the old man pulls it off again.
captainanddew- Posts : 8143
Join date : 2010-10-20
Age : 47
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my gut tells me that cloud will pull it off pretty handily. lets see if im right.
powerpuncher- Posts : 2643
Join date : 2010-10-24
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Agreed. In Hopkin's last fight against Dawson, he looked like a shot fighter. I expect him (Hopkins) to figure out very early that he has no chance against Cloud, then fake an injury (when he does this, he looks like a behavior disordered child.) and waste everyones time.powerpuncher wrote:my gut tells me that cloud will pull it off pretty handily. lets see if im right.
I don't really care about this fight, however Bernard is pretty easy to figure out so I had to say something. lol Something tells me if I stream this fight for free, I'll still want my money back.
Frank- Posts : 1930
Join date : 2010-10-21
Age : 47
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frank i dont care about this fight either.PP you may be right.naz feels and tells bo-hop we dont need bo-hop nor bernard hopkins in there we need the executioner.naz is wondering can he still pull the triger.his words in fact.yes he has the bullets and in training he does but in a real fight he said we will find out.
bo hop ring wise is brillant.cloud is a inactive dumb fighter.if cloud fights the fight his trainer wants he will win inside 12.thats punch a lot 60-70 or more a round.put on pressure.hit him in the body the bicepts the forearms the sholders anywhere but punch and hit him.if he attemts to tie you up mug him.do a bo-hop and hit him low when the refs not in position to see.maul him with your sholder and leg strenth.make him fight.bo-hop will fight back but make it a war.i dont know clouds mindset..keep in mind i feel ring wise hes stupid.we all know bo-hops mind set.thats his one advantage.since cloud is dumb lol they should advise him not to think.it will mess up his attack.just punch punch and punch.
its clouds fight to win or lose.he has to go for it every round.if not bo-hop wins a boring fight.
bo hop ring wise is brillant.cloud is a inactive dumb fighter.if cloud fights the fight his trainer wants he will win inside 12.thats punch a lot 60-70 or more a round.put on pressure.hit him in the body the bicepts the forearms the sholders anywhere but punch and hit him.if he attemts to tie you up mug him.do a bo-hop and hit him low when the refs not in position to see.maul him with your sholder and leg strenth.make him fight.bo-hop will fight back but make it a war.i dont know clouds mindset..keep in mind i feel ring wise hes stupid.we all know bo-hops mind set.thats his one advantage.since cloud is dumb lol they should advise him not to think.it will mess up his attack.just punch punch and punch.
its clouds fight to win or lose.he has to go for it every round.if not bo-hop wins a boring fight.
dmar5143- Posts : 2248
Join date : 2011-10-06
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you are probably right. bhop will fake an injury if he knows that he is going to lose.Frank wrote:Agreed. In Hopkin's last fight against Dawson, he looked like a shot fighter. I expect him (Hopkins) to figure out very early that he has no chance against Cloud, then fake an injury (when he does this, he looks like a behavior disordered child.) and waste everyones time.powerpuncher wrote:my gut tells me that cloud will pull it off pretty handily. lets see if im right.
I don't really care about this fight, however Bernard is pretty easy to figure out so I had to say something. lol Something tells me if I stream this fight for free, I'll still want my money back.
powerpuncher- Posts : 2643
Join date : 2010-10-24
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Odds on B-Hop are coming down.....money is changing the odds.
flapanther2001- Posts : 2962
Join date : 2010-10-27
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Anyone have a link?
Norm1023- Posts : 467
Join date : 2010-11-07
Age : 53
Location : New Hampshire
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I'm watching on my tv, but go to wiziwig:
http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?matchid=193935&part=sports
the one that is boxingguru usually works well for me.
http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?matchid=193935&part=sports
the one that is boxingguru usually works well for me.
captainanddew- Posts : 8143
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Thanks. I canceled my HBO a couple weeks ago. Didn't see much point in keeping it with the garbage they've been showing.
Norm1023- Posts : 467
Join date : 2010-11-07
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Norm1023 wrote:Thanks. I canceled my HBO a couple weeks ago. Didn't see much point in keeping it with the garbage they've been showing.
I'm thinking about dumping HBO as well. I only watch a few shows (boardwalk empire, game of thrones). And boxing has been crap lately on hbo.
Don't refer to Cloud as undefeated. He lost to Campillo on almost every scorecard but the 3 blind judges.
captainanddew- Posts : 8143
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Andre Ward picking Hopkins....
flapanther2001- Posts : 2962
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Looks like the ref is going to have a big part of the fight.
Norm1023- Posts : 467
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That must have been a great fight in the crowd
NJBeatdown86- Posts : 1789
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I have it 5-3 BHOP after 8 rounds.
captainanddew- Posts : 8143
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Cloud is not active enough.
flapanther2001- Posts : 2962
Join date : 2010-10-27
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Master class is in session.
Gumby- Posts : 2256
Join date : 2010-10-24
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I really enjoy watching Bhop do his thing. There's always talk about guys getting exposed, but I think Bhop is a guy who actually reveals the abilities of whoever he fights. He's made Cloud look like a limited fighter by not letting him set his feet.
Gumby- Posts : 2256
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BHOP should write a book on beating guys that have to set their feet. Put one of those guys in with him and he keeps them guessing.
captainanddew- Posts : 8143
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Old dude put on a clinic!!!
flapanther2001- Posts : 2962
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Old bastard proves us wrong again!
Cloud's career is fucked.
Cloud's career is fucked.
NJBeatdown86- Posts : 1789
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I'd love to see Shumenov and Cloud go at it now. That'd be rock'em sock'em. I think Cleverly should get a shot at Hopkins. I think the class of the division is either Dawson or Kovalev, but Hopkins is a living legend. I hope he sticks around as a trainer.
Gumby- Posts : 2256
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