What Boxing Matches on Network TV would succeed?
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What Boxing Matches on Network TV would succeed?
What boxing fights do you think would be successful on network TV right now?
- Floyd / Pac (or any fight with these two fighters)
- Alvarez vs. Chavez Jr.
- Marquez vs. Morales
- W Klitschko vs. Arreola? (V Klitschko vs Arreola did 1.3 million on HBO)
I would also see Cotto doing well depending on who he is matched up with.
I really think the hispanic fighters would do very well on network TV.
- Floyd / Pac (or any fight with these two fighters)
- Alvarez vs. Chavez Jr.
- Marquez vs. Morales
- W Klitschko vs. Arreola? (V Klitschko vs Arreola did 1.3 million on HBO)
I would also see Cotto doing well depending on who he is matched up with.
I really think the hispanic fighters would do very well on network TV.
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Pretty much any major HBO PPV fight would do well on network TV. That's why it's on PPV. Unfortunaitly, the nature of the beast in modern boxing.
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Ward vs. Bute
Arreola vs. Haye
Cloud vs. Pascal
Canelo vs. Cotto
Pac vs. Mayweather
Khan vs. Bradley
Rios vs. Maidana
Morales vs. Marquez
Gamboa vs, JuanMa
Donaire vs. Mares
Arreola vs. Haye
Cloud vs. Pascal
Canelo vs. Cotto
Pac vs. Mayweather
Khan vs. Bradley
Rios vs. Maidana
Morales vs. Marquez
Gamboa vs, JuanMa
Donaire vs. Mares
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GrantZilla wrote:Pretty much any major HBO PPV fight would do well on network TV. That's why it's on PPV. Unfortunaitly, the nature of the beast in modern boxing.
Yup. Promoters lost track of the fact that you need to build an audience before people will care enough to buy a major fight on PPV. So, the level of what's considered a "major" fight is so diluted that anything better than alright is burried on PPV where casual and potential new fans will never see it.
If someone was willing to take the effort to market some decent fights on network TV with half the energy they put into selling the latest garbage sitcom or reality flop, I'm sure any one of the fights listed on here would do great numbers.
Tobe- Posts : 1042
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What's happened now is people that have grown up in the PPV era of boxing have been conditioned to beleive that if a fight is not on PPV or HBO, it must suck. Because the mindset is, if the fight is any good, it would be on PPV.
Add to the mix that the landscape has changed. In the 50s-70s you had only a couple of channels. So you could put no-names as headliners on regular TV and lots of people would watch. There were few alternatives. Why shit like The Beverly Hillbillies was watched reguarly by 60 million people.
Today the alternatives is endless. Casual fans will not stay tuned to watch no-names on TV. That's just how it is today.
You could put Ward vs Bute on network TV and I doubt it get's 6 million viewers in the US. In Canada, sure. But both are not big names in the US.
Add to the mix that the landscape has changed. In the 50s-70s you had only a couple of channels. So you could put no-names as headliners on regular TV and lots of people would watch. There were few alternatives. Why shit like The Beverly Hillbillies was watched reguarly by 60 million people.
Today the alternatives is endless. Casual fans will not stay tuned to watch no-names on TV. That's just how it is today.
You could put Ward vs Bute on network TV and I doubt it get's 6 million viewers in the US. In Canada, sure. But both are not big names in the US.
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That's true about the options on TV Grant, but that's where marketing comes in. Lots of crap gets on TV and stays there because people put in the effort to target a demographic, sell sponsors on the notion that they can reach them with a show or event; and then actually promote the show/event to that demographic. Not rocket science here, you just need the will go out and do it.
Guys like Bute and Ward will never become big names unless someone goes out and makes them big names. Boxing promoters either don't want to do that or they simply don't know how; so IMO it falls to TV networks to fill that gap if they see value in it.
Guys like Bute and Ward will never become big names unless someone goes out and makes them big names. Boxing promoters either don't want to do that or they simply don't know how; so IMO it falls to TV networks to fill that gap if they see value in it.
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GrantZilla wrote:You could put Ward vs Bute on network TV and I doubt it get's 6 million viewers in the US. In Canada, sure. But both are not big names in the US.
Yes but networks pay anywhere from 2 to 3 million dollars per episode for one hour dramas that regularly draw 6 million veiwers in the US, plus they advertise it. Why not try putting some of that money into a primetime fight? CBS could have had WArd and Froch appear on every daytime and latenight talk show on their network leading up to the Super6 final. They could do the same for Ward/Bute.
THe problem is boxing overall is such a flipping joke as a sport that nobody wants to have their brand embarrassed by being to closely associated with it.
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Long-time boxing fans frequently lament the lack of a national television contract as one of the reasons for its struggles.
But don’t be surprised if boxing winds up on CBS at some point in 2012. Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer wouldn’t identify a network, but said recently, “I am optimistic, very optimistic,” when asked if there would be boxing on network TV in the near future.
Top Rank president Todd duBoef expressed similar optimism.
Now, though, the rumblings are coming from someone with the ability to influence that decision. Stephen Espinoza, the newly appointed vice president and general manager of Showtime Sports, said he thought boxing could come to network television this year.
“There’s a decent chance of it, maybe even a good chance of it happening, in fact,” Espinoza said. “Boxing, for all of its challenges, still has a very loyal fan base, especially in the Latino and African-American demographics. Boxing has shown that, at its highest level, boxing can capture the mainstream sports, and non-sports, population.
“Whenever you have an event like [Floyd] Mayweather-[Manny] Pacquiao, or [Oscar] De La Hoya-Mayweather, capture the imagination of all sports fans and, to a certain degree, non-sports fans, you’ve got a good recipe for success.”
There is no fight lined up, there’s no date, and there’s not even a deal, but at least for the first time in a long while, there is reason to be optimistic about boxing’s return to free, over-the-air television.
http://tinyurl.com/7vqft5b
But don’t be surprised if boxing winds up on CBS at some point in 2012. Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer wouldn’t identify a network, but said recently, “I am optimistic, very optimistic,” when asked if there would be boxing on network TV in the near future.
Top Rank president Todd duBoef expressed similar optimism.
Now, though, the rumblings are coming from someone with the ability to influence that decision. Stephen Espinoza, the newly appointed vice president and general manager of Showtime Sports, said he thought boxing could come to network television this year.
“There’s a decent chance of it, maybe even a good chance of it happening, in fact,” Espinoza said. “Boxing, for all of its challenges, still has a very loyal fan base, especially in the Latino and African-American demographics. Boxing has shown that, at its highest level, boxing can capture the mainstream sports, and non-sports, population.
“Whenever you have an event like [Floyd] Mayweather-[Manny] Pacquiao, or [Oscar] De La Hoya-Mayweather, capture the imagination of all sports fans and, to a certain degree, non-sports fans, you’ve got a good recipe for success.”
There is no fight lined up, there’s no date, and there’s not even a deal, but at least for the first time in a long while, there is reason to be optimistic about boxing’s return to free, over-the-air television.
http://tinyurl.com/7vqft5b
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Oscar De La Homo
Major announcement soon to come that will shake the boxing industry in a major way
Lot of speculation that it will be a network TV deal
GrantZilla- Posts : 9310
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GrantZilla wrote:
Oscar De La Homo
Major announcement soon to come that will shake the boxing industry in a major way
Lot of speculation that it will be a network TV deal
great the golden boy will destroy boxing. Going to stick golden boy fighters on network tv in mismatches.
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Condsidering boxing's present state, I think the network matches that would do the best are those with fighters who never met a punch they tried to duck. It's also time to bring some new names in. If a new method is introduced (Well, network boxing shows are new for this era. LOL), new faces would excite the fans more.
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GrantZilla wrote:
Oscar De La Homo
Major announcement soon to come that will shake the boxing industry in a major way
Lot of speculation that it will be a network TV deal
Oscar coming out of the closet ?
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alvarado vs rios
broner vs gamboa
gary russell vs mickey garcia
mickey garcia vs juanma
maidana vs paris
rios vs paris
golovkin vs chavez jr.
golovkin vs martinez
ortiz vs alexander IF alexander comes to fight like he did last week
ortiz vs khan
khan vs berto
donaire vs gamboa
donaire vs mickey garcia
cloud vs pascal
pascal vs syllakh
bute vs froch
bute vs golovkin
kirkland vs ANYONE
angulo vs ANYONE
broner vs gamboa
gary russell vs mickey garcia
mickey garcia vs juanma
maidana vs paris
rios vs paris
golovkin vs chavez jr.
golovkin vs martinez
ortiz vs alexander IF alexander comes to fight like he did last week
ortiz vs khan
khan vs berto
donaire vs gamboa
donaire vs mickey garcia
cloud vs pascal
pascal vs syllakh
bute vs froch
bute vs golovkin
kirkland vs ANYONE
angulo vs ANYONE
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