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Post  kbyte Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:16 pm

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Post  Diego408 Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:32 pm

Everyone knows Floyd will struggle against southpaws. Reason why Floyd Sr. said they will not fight against Sergio Martinez. At the time, Judah gave Floyd a tougher fight than Zab did against Baldi. Like Ive been saying Ortiz is the best fighter Floyd will fight! (unless he fights Pacquaio) and Doniare is right, eventually some of Pacquaios punches will land on Floyd if they fight.

I think DLH said it the best on 24/7. Floyd beat Hatton and Marquez who are small guys. Fought DLH when he was done as a fighter, foguht Mosley when he was done as well. Baldi and Judah suck too. Ortiz says Floyd is a "decent champ," I agree.
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Post  gomez1012 Tue Sep 06, 2011 4:05 pm

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Post  powerpuncher Tue Sep 06, 2011 6:36 pm

Diego408 wrote:Everyone knows Floyd will struggle against southpaws. Reason why Floyd Sr. said they will not fight against Sergio Martinez. At the time, Judah gave Floyd a tougher fight than Zab did against Baldi. Like Ive been saying Ortiz is the best fighter Floyd will fight! (unless he fights Pacquaio) and Doniare is right, eventually some of Pacquaios punches will land on Floyd if they fight.

I think DLH said it the best on 24/7. Floyd beat Hatton and Marquez who are small guys. Fought DLH when he was done as a fighter, foguht Mosley when he was done as well. Baldi and Judah suck too. Ortiz says Floyd is a "decent champ," I agree.
thats definitely not true. we are forgetting that ortiz quit against maidana, had a close fight with peterson who is mediocre, and won a hard fought decision against berto who is a B level fighter. ortiz is overrated by many. he is a solid fighter but mayweather will embarrass him.
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Post  Gumby Tue Sep 06, 2011 6:45 pm

As much as Ortiz gets hyped or the guys that Floyd beat get discredited, if he loses it's because he's faded. It will be obvious when he's in the ring if he still has "it". But Ortiz will win because Floyd got old or because Ortiz has made a huge leap since the Berto fight and sticks to his gameplan.
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Post  Soonermark890 Tue Sep 06, 2011 6:49 pm

powerpuncher wrote:
Diego408 wrote:Everyone knows Floyd will struggle against southpaws. Reason why Floyd Sr. said they will not fight against Sergio Martinez. At the time, Judah gave Floyd a tougher fight than Zab did against Baldi. Like Ive been saying Ortiz is the best fighter Floyd will fight! (unless he fights Pacquaio) and Doniare is right, eventually some of Pacquaios punches will land on Floyd if they fight.

I think DLH said it the best on 24/7. Floyd beat Hatton and Marquez who are small guys. Fought DLH when he was done as a fighter, foguht Mosley when he was done as well. Baldi and Judah suck too. Ortiz says Floyd is a "decent champ," I agree.
thats definitely not true. we are forgetting that ortiz quit against maidana, had a close fight with peterson who is mediocre, and won a hard fought decision against berto who is a B level fighter. ortiz is overrated by many. he is a solid fighter but mayweather will embarrass him.
I think you are correct but I really hope not. As for the video he is right. Pac to me is the exact fight to ko flod. He has the speed, power and workrate to do it.
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Post  gomez1012 Tue Sep 06, 2011 7:29 pm

Gumby wrote:As much as Ortiz gets hyped or the guys that Floyd beat get discredited, if he loses it's because he's faded. It will be obvious when he's in the ring if he still has "it". But Ortiz will win because Floyd got old or because Ortiz has made a huge leap since the Berto fight and sticks to his gameplan.

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Post  GrantZilla Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:19 pm

gomez1012 wrote:
Gumby wrote:As much as Ortiz gets hyped or the guys that Floyd beat get discredited, if he loses it's because he's faded. It will be obvious when he's in the ring if he still has "it". But Ortiz will win because Floyd got old or because Ortiz has made a huge leap since the Berto fight and sticks to his gameplan.

The internets age we live in

Everybody is a Monday Morning QB

You can rip any boxer's resume a part, even Ali's. Why I don't do it. Unless a fighter is just fighting nothing but bums and hypejobs.

Hatton was no more then a little guy then Floyd was. Not like Floyd at that time was a big Welter. And who the fuck is Oscar to accuse someone of fighting little guys. He fought Pac for sole purpose of him being a name and a little guy. Shit backfired on him.
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Post  Rum Capital Tue Sep 06, 2011 9:42 pm

GrantZilla wrote:
gomez1012 wrote:
Gumby wrote:As much as Ortiz gets hyped or the guys that Floyd beat get discredited, if he loses it's because he's faded. It will be obvious when he's in the ring if he still has "it". But Ortiz will win because Floyd got old or because Ortiz has made a huge leap since the Berto fight and sticks to his gameplan.

The internets age we live in

Everybody is a Monday Morning QB

You can rip any boxer's resume a part, even Ali's. Why I don't do it. Unless a fighter is just fighting nothing but bums and hypejobs.

Hatton was no more then a little guy then Floyd was. Not like Floyd at that time was a big Welter. And who the fuck is Oscar to accuse someone of fighting little guys. He fought Pac for sole purpose of him being a name and a little guy. Shit backfired on him.

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Post  Frank Wed Sep 07, 2011 8:30 am

Donaire made some excellent points in that video and it was fun to see him demonstrate how Pac is going to get to Floyd. He's right in that case. As far as Ortiz goes, I honestly think Floyd has so much more ability than Ortiz, he can do pretty much what ever he wants. We'll see. I'll say this. JZ has promoted this fight far better than Arum or anybody else. He's convinced me to order it and I think the Arum owes him a percentage of the gate. LOL

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Post  gomez1012 Wed Sep 07, 2011 12:00 pm

Frank wrote:Donaire made some excellent points in that video and it was fun to see him demonstrate how Pac is going to get to Floyd. He's right in that case. As far as Ortiz goes, I honestly think Floyd has so much more ability than Ortiz, he can do pretty much what ever he wants. We'll see. I'll say this. JZ has promoted this fight far better than Arum or anybody else. He's convinced me to order it and I think the Arum owes him a percentage of the gate. LOL

The under card fights should be entertaining

Morales vs Mathysse, Canelo crushing Gomez, and step up fight for a prospect as the opener
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Post  Soonermark890 Wed Sep 07, 2011 7:44 pm

gomez1012 wrote:
Frank wrote:Donaire made some excellent points in that video and it was fun to see him demonstrate how Pac is going to get to Floyd. He's right in that case. As far as Ortiz goes, I honestly think Floyd has so much more ability than Ortiz, he can do pretty much what ever he wants. We'll see. I'll say this. JZ has promoted this fight far better than Arum or anybody else. He's convinced me to order it and I think the Arum owes him a percentage of the gate. LOL

The under card fights should be entertaining

Morales vs Mathysse, Canelo crushing Gomez, and step up fight for a prospect as the opener
that's why I am ordering it.
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Post  Rum Capital Wed Sep 07, 2011 8:29 pm

gomez1012 wrote:
Frank wrote:Donaire made some excellent points in that video and it was fun to see him demonstrate how Pac is going to get to Floyd. He's right in that case. As far as Ortiz goes, I honestly think Floyd has so much more ability than Ortiz, he can do pretty much what ever he wants. We'll see. I'll say this. JZ has promoted this fight far better than Arum or anybody else. He's convinced me to order it and I think the Arum owes him a percentage of the gate. LOL

The under card fights should be entertaining

Morales vs Mathysse, Canelo crushing Gomez, and step up fight for a prospect as the opener
idk about that. i think josesito is going to ko vargas.
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Post  gomez1012 Thu Sep 08, 2011 11:48 am

Rum Capital wrote:
idk about that. i think josesito is going to ko vargas.

I like Lopez too
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