Donaire on why Floyd will have a hard time with Pac and Ortiz's southpaw stance
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kbyte- Posts : 730
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Re: Donaire on why Floyd will have a hard time with Pac and Ortiz's southpaw stance
Everyone knows Floyd will struggle against southpaws. Reason why Floyd Sr. said they will not fight against Sergio Martinez. At the time, Judah gave Floyd a tougher fight than Zab did against Baldi. Like Ive been saying Ortiz is the best fighter Floyd will fight! (unless he fights Pacquaio) and Doniare is right, eventually some of Pacquaios punches will land on Floyd if they fight.
I think DLH said it the best on 24/7. Floyd beat Hatton and Marquez who are small guys. Fought DLH when he was done as a fighter, foguht Mosley when he was done as well. Baldi and Judah suck too. Ortiz says Floyd is a "decent champ," I agree.
I think DLH said it the best on 24/7. Floyd beat Hatton and Marquez who are small guys. Fought DLH when he was done as a fighter, foguht Mosley when he was done as well. Baldi and Judah suck too. Ortiz says Floyd is a "decent champ," I agree.
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gomez1012- Posts : 7452
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Re: Donaire on why Floyd will have a hard time with Pac and Ortiz's southpaw stance
thats definitely not true. we are forgetting that ortiz quit against maidana, had a close fight with peterson who is mediocre, and won a hard fought decision against berto who is a B level fighter. ortiz is overrated by many. he is a solid fighter but mayweather will embarrass him.Diego408 wrote:Everyone knows Floyd will struggle against southpaws. Reason why Floyd Sr. said they will not fight against Sergio Martinez. At the time, Judah gave Floyd a tougher fight than Zab did against Baldi. Like Ive been saying Ortiz is the best fighter Floyd will fight! (unless he fights Pacquaio) and Doniare is right, eventually some of Pacquaios punches will land on Floyd if they fight.
I think DLH said it the best on 24/7. Floyd beat Hatton and Marquez who are small guys. Fought DLH when he was done as a fighter, foguht Mosley when he was done as well. Baldi and Judah suck too. Ortiz says Floyd is a "decent champ," I agree.
powerpuncher- Posts : 2643
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Re: Donaire on why Floyd will have a hard time with Pac and Ortiz's southpaw stance
As much as Ortiz gets hyped or the guys that Floyd beat get discredited, if he loses it's because he's faded. It will be obvious when he's in the ring if he still has "it". But Ortiz will win because Floyd got old or because Ortiz has made a huge leap since the Berto fight and sticks to his gameplan.
Gumby- Posts : 2256
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Re: Donaire on why Floyd will have a hard time with Pac and Ortiz's southpaw stance
I think you are correct but I really hope not. As for the video he is right. Pac to me is the exact fight to ko flod. He has the speed, power and workrate to do it.powerpuncher wrote:thats definitely not true. we are forgetting that ortiz quit against maidana, had a close fight with peterson who is mediocre, and won a hard fought decision against berto who is a B level fighter. ortiz is overrated by many. he is a solid fighter but mayweather will embarrass him.Diego408 wrote:Everyone knows Floyd will struggle against southpaws. Reason why Floyd Sr. said they will not fight against Sergio Martinez. At the time, Judah gave Floyd a tougher fight than Zab did against Baldi. Like Ive been saying Ortiz is the best fighter Floyd will fight! (unless he fights Pacquaio) and Doniare is right, eventually some of Pacquaios punches will land on Floyd if they fight.
I think DLH said it the best on 24/7. Floyd beat Hatton and Marquez who are small guys. Fought DLH when he was done as a fighter, foguht Mosley when he was done as well. Baldi and Judah suck too. Ortiz says Floyd is a "decent champ," I agree.
Re: Donaire on why Floyd will have a hard time with Pac and Ortiz's southpaw stance
Gumby wrote:As much as Ortiz gets hyped or the guys that Floyd beat get discredited, if he loses it's because he's faded. It will be obvious when he's in the ring if he still has "it". But Ortiz will win because Floyd got old or because Ortiz has made a huge leap since the Berto fight and sticks to his gameplan.
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gomez1012- Posts : 7452
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Re: Donaire on why Floyd will have a hard time with Pac and Ortiz's southpaw stance
gomez1012 wrote:Gumby wrote:As much as Ortiz gets hyped or the guys that Floyd beat get discredited, if he loses it's because he's faded. It will be obvious when he's in the ring if he still has "it". But Ortiz will win because Floyd got old or because Ortiz has made a huge leap since the Berto fight and sticks to his gameplan.
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You can rip any boxer's resume a part, even Ali's. Why I don't do it. Unless a fighter is just fighting nothing but bums and hypejobs.
Hatton was no more then a little guy then Floyd was. Not like Floyd at that time was a big Welter. And who the fuck is Oscar to accuse someone of fighting little guys. He fought Pac for sole purpose of him being a name and a little guy. Shit backfired on him.
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Re: Donaire on why Floyd will have a hard time with Pac and Ortiz's southpaw stance
GrantZilla wrote:gomez1012 wrote:Gumby wrote:As much as Ortiz gets hyped or the guys that Floyd beat get discredited, if he loses it's because he's faded. It will be obvious when he's in the ring if he still has "it". But Ortiz will win because Floyd got old or because Ortiz has made a huge leap since the Berto fight and sticks to his gameplan.
The internets age we live in
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You can rip any boxer's resume a part, even Ali's. Why I don't do it. Unless a fighter is just fighting nothing but bums and hypejobs.
Hatton was no more then a little guy then Floyd was. Not like Floyd at that time was a big Welter. And who the fuck is Oscar to accuse someone of fighting little guys. He fought Pac for sole purpose of him being a name and a little guy. Shit backfired on him.
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Re: Donaire on why Floyd will have a hard time with Pac and Ortiz's southpaw stance
Donaire made some excellent points in that video and it was fun to see him demonstrate how Pac is going to get to Floyd. He's right in that case. As far as Ortiz goes, I honestly think Floyd has so much more ability than Ortiz, he can do pretty much what ever he wants. We'll see. I'll say this. JZ has promoted this fight far better than Arum or anybody else. He's convinced me to order it and I think the Arum owes him a percentage of the gate. LOL
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Re: Donaire on why Floyd will have a hard time with Pac and Ortiz's southpaw stance
Frank wrote:Donaire made some excellent points in that video and it was fun to see him demonstrate how Pac is going to get to Floyd. He's right in that case. As far as Ortiz goes, I honestly think Floyd has so much more ability than Ortiz, he can do pretty much what ever he wants. We'll see. I'll say this. JZ has promoted this fight far better than Arum or anybody else. He's convinced me to order it and I think the Arum owes him a percentage of the gate. LOL
The under card fights should be entertaining
Morales vs Mathysse, Canelo crushing Gomez, and step up fight for a prospect as the opener
gomez1012- Posts : 7452
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Re: Donaire on why Floyd will have a hard time with Pac and Ortiz's southpaw stance
that's why I am ordering it.gomez1012 wrote:Frank wrote:Donaire made some excellent points in that video and it was fun to see him demonstrate how Pac is going to get to Floyd. He's right in that case. As far as Ortiz goes, I honestly think Floyd has so much more ability than Ortiz, he can do pretty much what ever he wants. We'll see. I'll say this. JZ has promoted this fight far better than Arum or anybody else. He's convinced me to order it and I think the Arum owes him a percentage of the gate. LOL
The under card fights should be entertaining
Morales vs Mathysse, Canelo crushing Gomez, and step up fight for a prospect as the opener
Re: Donaire on why Floyd will have a hard time with Pac and Ortiz's southpaw stance
idk about that. i think josesito is going to ko vargas.gomez1012 wrote:Frank wrote:Donaire made some excellent points in that video and it was fun to see him demonstrate how Pac is going to get to Floyd. He's right in that case. As far as Ortiz goes, I honestly think Floyd has so much more ability than Ortiz, he can do pretty much what ever he wants. We'll see. I'll say this. JZ has promoted this fight far better than Arum or anybody else. He's convinced me to order it and I think the Arum owes him a percentage of the gate. LOL
The under card fights should be entertaining
Morales vs Mathysse, Canelo crushing Gomez, and step up fight for a prospect as the opener
Rum Capital- Posts : 2218
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Re: Donaire on why Floyd will have a hard time with Pac and Ortiz's southpaw stance
Rum Capital wrote:
idk about that. i think josesito is going to ko vargas.
I like Lopez too
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