Bum Jr vs Hearns...Disgrace
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Bum Jr vs Hearns...Disgrace
Getting KO'd be the light hitting Sturm in 7 rounds I guess get's you a shot at Bum Jr and a sanctioned title shot by the World Boxing Clowns
GrantZilla- Posts : 9310
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Don't feel bad...nobody could defend this, not even the Bible, or the Quran or the.......Soonermark890 wrote:Yeah even I cant defend this one.
flapanther2001- Posts : 2962
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I will be fair. I don't hate Bum Jr. I hate everything involved in why this shit is happening.
--Him benifiting soley because of his daddy's name. Arum putting the kid gloves on him. Him getting a trinket gift wrapped to him after being stolen from Martinez.
To be honest, I can careless he has a trinket. They mean jack shit to me. Unforunitly, to certain fans and the media, they do mean something. This idiot is being called a Champion, and it's sickening.
--Him benifiting soley because of his daddy's name. Arum putting the kid gloves on him. Him getting a trinket gift wrapped to him after being stolen from Martinez.
To be honest, I can careless he has a trinket. They mean jack shit to me. Unforunitly, to certain fans and the media, they do mean something. This idiot is being called a Champion, and it's sickening.
GrantZilla- Posts : 9310
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If we add up the fact that Jr. was handed a gift wrapped title, plus his padded undefeated record, with the fact that Hearns has done absolutely nothing to earn a title shot, except get KO'd in his last fight, it really does smell badly. This fight is a mockery of a grand sport. Now, not only do we have one undeserving guy fighting for a title, we have two!!!
flapanther2001- Posts : 2962
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Is this an HBO fight or some niche PPV?
Honestly it is what it is. I dont think much of Chavez Jr so i dont care what his opposition is. When he blatantly ducks Sergio then i'll care just a little bit.
Honestly it is what it is. I dont think much of Chavez Jr so i dont care what his opposition is. When he blatantly ducks Sergio then i'll care just a little bit.
SlickMoney- Posts : 1642
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SlickMoney wrote:Is this an HBO fight or some niche PPV?
Honestly it is what it is. I dont think much of Chavez Jr so i dont care what his opposition is. When he blatantly ducks Sergio then i'll care just a little bit.
I don't see how it won't be a PPV, since HBO has no money.
And he will duck Martinez, or WBC will create some bullshit way for him to continue to avoid him. But Martinez is as much of a chump for letting the WBC continue to fuck him over, yet still kiss the WBC and Joke Sillyman's ass
GrantZilla- Posts : 9310
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Martinez should petition the WBC to fight Chavez Jr. I'd love to see them come up with a valid excuse for not allowing that fight.
flapanther2001- Posts : 2962
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That is the only thing I dont like about him. The kid gloves should be taken off soon but that needed to happen since he had no amateur experience.GrantZilla wrote:I will be fair. I don't hate Bum Jr. I hate everything involved in why this shit is happening.
--Him benifiting soley because of his daddy's name. Arum putting the kid gloves on him. Him getting a trinket gift wrapped to him after being stolen from Martinez.
To be honest, I can careless he has a trinket. They mean jack shit to me. Unforunitly, to certain fans and the media, they do mean something. This idiot is being called a Champion, and it's sickening.
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Soonermark890 wrote:That is the only thing I dont like about him. The kid gloves should be taken off soon but that needed to happen since he had no amateur experience.
That doesn't bother me because the trinkets mean jackshit to me. But sadily, not the case for certain people and the media, who do value the worthless junk, and refer to Bum Jr as a Champion for stealing Martinez's belt
GrantZilla- Posts : 9310
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I get the no amateur experience side to this.
But there are alot of Mexican fighters with little to no amateur experience who have to learn on the job. And unlike most of those guys, Chavez Jr. has been coddled. Guys like Margarito (and alot of others) have quite a few losses early in the career because they had no experience, were very young, and got thrown in with much more experienced guys.
It is time for him to face decent fighters. He wins the belt against a lower top 10 guy (in a fight that never should have taken place because of the bullshit surrounding Martinez losing the belt).
But now they put him in with a lesser fighter coming off of a KO destruction.
Arum knows he has a cash cow and he is going to milk it all he can. He'll have him fight Hearns.
Then he'll have him face a guy just outside the top 10/beatable lower top 10 guy(this level of guy is necessary so that the sanctioning bodies can say he is facing a good fighter and they can ignore the Martinez situation).
Then he'll have another gimme. Then if Arum thinks he has gotten all he can get out of the kid he'll line up a big fight with Martinez and let him get destroyed. Or hope Martinez has given up/gotten old and lost to someone very good.
But there are alot of Mexican fighters with little to no amateur experience who have to learn on the job. And unlike most of those guys, Chavez Jr. has been coddled. Guys like Margarito (and alot of others) have quite a few losses early in the career because they had no experience, were very young, and got thrown in with much more experienced guys.
It is time for him to face decent fighters. He wins the belt against a lower top 10 guy (in a fight that never should have taken place because of the bullshit surrounding Martinez losing the belt).
But now they put him in with a lesser fighter coming off of a KO destruction.
Arum knows he has a cash cow and he is going to milk it all he can. He'll have him fight Hearns.
Then he'll have him face a guy just outside the top 10/beatable lower top 10 guy(this level of guy is necessary so that the sanctioning bodies can say he is facing a good fighter and they can ignore the Martinez situation).
Then he'll have another gimme. Then if Arum thinks he has gotten all he can get out of the kid he'll line up a big fight with Martinez and let him get destroyed. Or hope Martinez has given up/gotten old and lost to someone very good.
captainanddew- Posts : 8143
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This fight is scheduled for Sept. 17th the same night as "Star Power" PPV card. Supposedly Arum was upset he was going thru the fight since he will not be working with Freddie Roach and also the WBC was upset he was going up against Canelo another WBC "champion" who happens to fight on the same night! All in all I see an upset brewing here and the NEW WBC MIDDLEWEIGHT Champion of the world.............Tommy jr!!
nano212- Posts : 412
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nano212 wrote:All in all I see an upset brewing here and the NEW WBC MIDDLEWEIGHT Champion of the world.............Tommy jr!!
Hearns would have to channel his daddy an lay Jr the fuck out to win the fight. He won't win it on the scorecards, that's for fucking sure. Even if he dominates for 12 rounds.
GrantZilla- Posts : 9310
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captainanddew wrote: Then if Arum thinks he has gotten all he can get out of the kid he'll line up a big fight with Martinez and let him get destroyed. Or hope Martinez has given up/gotten old and lost to someone very good.
Arum already looking to cash Bum Jr out against Canelo
"Neither guy looks to me to be a great fighter and either guy could lose on the way there," Arum said of Chavez and Alvarez. "Gamboa and Lopez were elite, great fighters. If (a loss) happened there, it could certainly happen with Canelo and Chavez, who are not elite fighters."
http://tinyurl.com/6cdglhc
GrantZilla- Posts : 9310
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Who?[u]nano212 wrote:This fight is scheduled for Sept. 17th the same night as "Star Power" PPV card. Supposedly Arum was upset he was going thru the fight since he will not be working with Freddie Roach and also the WBC was upset he was going up against Canelo another WBC "champion" who happens to fight on the same night! All in all I see an upset brewing here and the NEW WBC MIDDLEWEIGHT Champion of the world.............Tommy jr!!
flapanther2001- Posts : 2962
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Rubio said the other day " Chavez Jr couldn't knock me out if I had one arm tied behind my back."
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This is the state of boxing right not, unfortunately. People can buy title fights way easier than a few years ago. I mean look at the Pac-Margo fight two fighters who were unranked at 154 fighting for a belt. That was the biggest crock of shit I have ever seen. This is not at all suprising sadly.
Suavecito80- Posts : 77
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I guess Arum is trying to milk every dollar he can from JR. Uncle Bob will sell it as the sons of legends facing off for the Middleweight (paper) Championship. He already recognizes that Jr. is not very good (I mean he said it to ESPN about Jr and Canelo, but its only true about his fighter). After this its either dump title or lose to Martinez. BTW on what Rubio was saying, Jr couldnt knock him out if Marco had one hand tied behind his back. I actually think Rubio would knock the spit out of Chavez with one hand eventually in the fight.
Oh Yeah and hearns is a live dog, I'll say this and Hearns isnt even that good. I thought Zbik got robbed BTW. Horrible decision.
Oh Yeah and hearns is a live dog, I'll say this and Hearns isnt even that good. I thought Zbik got robbed BTW. Horrible decision.
Diego408- Posts : 2646
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Dan does the Chavez-Hearns bout scream disaster to you? Chavez looked to be way overweight @ the press conference. I would not be shocked if it got cancelled. Just seems like a bad idea all the way around
Dan Rafael
If it is called off it would not shock me at all. Hearns did his 30-day WBC weigh in and was fine. Chavez did not do his. He is clearly overweight. The WBC said his 30-day weight was "pending." The entire promotion and rush to put it on has been a cluster you know what.
Dan Rafael
If it is called off it would not shock me at all. Hearns did his 30-day WBC weigh in and was fine. Chavez did not do his. He is clearly overweight. The WBC said his 30-day weight was "pending." The entire promotion and rush to put it on has been a cluster you know what.
GrantZilla- Posts : 9310
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