Amir Khan vs Zab Judah talks hit a wall

Based on the current positions of both parties, it's unlikely that WBA junior welterweight champion Amir Khan will take part in a unification with IBF king Zab Judah on July 23. Sources have advised BoxingScene.com that Judah's side is demanding a 50-50 split on the revenue. Golden Boy Promotions, who handle Khan, have no interest in discussing a 50-50 split with Judah.

Discussions began immediately after WBC/WBO champion Timothy Bradley rejected a revised offer to face Khan. The offer to Bradley had some lucrative points, including a package of $1.4 million [80/20 split between Bradley and his promoter Gary Shaw] and a 50-50 split on the UK pay-per-view revenue.

Judah's promoter, Main Events, believe their boxer's name recognition, and notoriety in the sport, is much bigger when compared to fighters like Bradley, and they are confident of Judah's ability to generate more interest, and more money, in the fight. They believe Judah's notoriety was validated when Top Rank was considering him as a November opponent for Manny Pacquiao, recognized as the biggest cash cow in boxing.

Judah, a fomer undisputed welterweight champion, has fought a who's who of fighters - including Cory Spinks, Miguel Cotto, Kostya Tszyu, Junior Witter, Joshua Clottey, Floyd Mayweather Jr., Lucas Matthysse and numerous others. If a deal was reached, Judah would become the most experienced opponent of Khan's career.

The frontrunner to face Khan appears to be WBA/WBO interim-lightweight champion Robert "The Ghost" Guerrero, who recently expressed his interest in moving up to face Khan.

SlickMoney wrote:http://www.boxingscene.com/zab-judahs-promoter-gives-details-on-amir-khan-talks--39427

So Bradley was worth 50-50 but Zab isnt? The Khan's are re-re's.

hardcorebee24 wrote:

SlickMoney wrote:http://www.boxingscene.com/zab-judahs-promoter-gives-details-on-amir-khan-talks--39427

So Bradley was worth 50-50 but Zab isnt? The Khan's are re-re's.

It's not for the lineal title. That's why the split was there for Bradley. Zab also recently took a dump on Khan saying Khan was a step down for him.

dmar5143 wrote:i agree hardcore..let him go back to friday night fights then.

SlickMoney wrote:Lineal title means jack for selling tickets or PPV revenue. Zab is selling more tickets anywhere in the US than Bradley.

Ali wrote:

SlickMoney wrote:Lineal title means jack for selling tickets or PPV revenue. Zab is selling more tickets anywhere in the US than Bradley.

Erm it would mean everything for the UK PPV revenue, they could hype the fight up alot over here.

SlickMoney wrote:Lineal title means jack for selling tickets or PPV revenue. Zab is selling more tickets anywhere in the US than Bradley.

hardcorebee24 wrote:

SlickMoney wrote:Lineal title means jack for selling tickets or PPV revenue. Zab is selling more tickets anywhere in the US than Bradley.

Who in the US is going to PPV this? This has World Championship Boxing written all over it. UK PPV's are all Khan. Zab isn't a draw like that. To give up the money for the lineal belt does make sense when you think you can beat the guy and the lineal belt would lead to future paydays and endorsements. What would beating Zab do for his career after that fight? Zab is ranked way below Khan and hasn't fought anyone ranked other than Mabuza who was a lower rung champ. Besides McCloskey Khan has fought the tougher opponents in the last two years and deserves the lions share in this fight.

SlickMoney wrote:

hardcorebee24 wrote:

SlickMoney wrote:Lineal title means jack for selling tickets or PPV revenue. Zab is selling more tickets anywhere in the US than Bradley.

Who in the US is going to PPV this? This has World Championship Boxing written all over it. UK PPV's are all Khan. Zab isn't a draw like that. To give up the money for the lineal belt does make sense when you think you can beat the guy and the lineal belt would lead to future paydays and endorsements. What would beating Zab do for his career after that fight? Zab is ranked way below Khan and hasn't fought anyone ranked other than Mabuza who was a lower rung champ. Besides McCloskey Khan has fought the tougher opponents in the last two years and deserves the lions share in this fight.

I was talking bout UK PPV. Bradley was getting 50-50 of the UK revenue. Think about that. If you were Zab and saw the Bradley was getting half of PPV revenue wouldnt you think you deserve it as well?

Ali wrote:Honestly wtf is it with these Americans demanding more money from Khan ?

Peterson, Bradley and now Judah, don't they realize how lucky they're to be in the position to earn triple what an average working person makes in a full year ?

captainanddew wrote:

Ali wrote:Honestly wtf is it with these Americans demanding more money from Khan ?

Peterson, Bradley and now Judah, don't they realize how lucky they're to be in the position to earn triple what an average working person makes in a full year ?

triple what the average working person earns in a year???

are you on crack.

I have no idea how much Bradley gets in terms of cut but even if he only got 50% of the 1.4 million, that would be 700,000 before taxes.

In the US that is alot more than triple what the average working person earns.

Median HOUSEHOLD income in the US last year was $46,000. Yes, the amount of money varies by state, etc..., but he would be getting roughly 14 times what the average household makes in the US.

Anyone turning down these amounts is plain retarded, especially when they wouldn't make but about 1/4 to 1/2 of that amount for fighting anyone else (unless it is Pac or Floyd).

Ali wrote:

captainanddew wrote:

Ali wrote:Honestly wtf is it with these Americans demanding more money from Khan ?

Peterson, Bradley and now Judah, don't they realize how lucky they're to be in the position to earn triple what an average working person makes in a full year ?

triple what the average working person earns in a year???

are you on crack.

I have no idea how much Bradley gets in terms of cut but even if he only got 50% of the 1.4 million, that would be 700,000 before taxes.

In the US that is alot more than triple what the average working person earns.

Median HOUSEHOLD income in the US last year was $46,000. Yes, the amount of money varies by state, etc..., but he would be getting roughly 14 times what the average household makes in the US.

Anyone turning down these amounts is plain retarded, especially when they wouldn't make but about 1/4 to 1/2 of that amount for fighting anyone else (unless it is Pac or Floyd).

Sorry Mr Captain sir.

Ali wrote:Well it looks like it'll be Khan vs Guerrero in July.

Honestly even though the fight doesn't make alot of sense I view him as a very dangerous opponent for Khan.

Ali wrote:Well it looks like it'll be Khan vs Guerrero in July.

Honestly even though the fight doesn't make alot of sense I view him as a very dangerous opponent for Khan.

captainanddew wrote:

Ali wrote:Honestly wtf is it with these Americans demanding more money from Khan ?

Peterson, Bradley and now Judah, don't they realize how lucky they're to be in the position to earn triple what an average working person makes in a full year ?

triple what the average working person earns in a year???

are you on crack.

I have no idea how much Bradley gets in terms of cut but even if he only got 50% of the 1.4 million, that would be 700,000 before taxes.
In the US that is alot more than triple what the average working person earns.

Median HOUSEHOLD income in the US last year was $46,000. Yes, the amount of money varies by state, etc..., but he would be getting roughly 14 times what the average household makes in the US.

Anyone turning down these amounts is plain retarded, especially when they wouldn't make but about 1/4 to 1/2 of that amount for fighting anyone else (unless it is Pac or Floyd).

UBeeg9cats wrote:

captainanddew wrote:

Ali wrote:Honestly wtf is it with these Americans demanding more money from Khan ?

Peterson, Bradley and now Judah, don't they realize how lucky they're to be in the position to earn triple what an average working person makes in a full year ?

triple what the average working person earns in a year???

are you on crack.

I have no idea how much Bradley gets in terms of cut but even if he only got 50% of the 1.4 million, that would be 700,000 before taxes.
In the US that is alot more than triple what the average working person earns.

Median HOUSEHOLD income in the US last year was $46,000. Yes, the amount of money varies by state, etc..., but he would be getting roughly 14 times what the average household makes in the US.

Anyone turning down these amounts is plain retarded, especially when they wouldn't make but about 1/4 to 1/2 of that amount for fighting anyone else (unless it is Pac or Floyd).

I'm pretty sure Bradley himself would make at least 1.4 million. The terms I kept hearing was the Bradley side received 50% of the total profit of the fight. If the profits were under 3.5 million total, Bradley would receive 1.4 million. Otherwise Bradley would receive 80% of 50% of the profits or 40% of the total profit. Shaw would receive 20% of the Bradley fight if the fight made enough money. Shaw must be disappointed because he would get 10% of the profits if the fight made more than 3.5.