Haye could still bail

Before we start thinking that Wlad-Haye is a done deal, just remember that Haye has already backed of a signed contract to fight Wlad before. Haye has over 3 months to come up with an excuse and pussy out since this fight isn't scheduled until July 2nd. We already know that Haye's word is worth absolutely nothing, don't be surprised if this fight gets canceled, in fact i'd say there's a 50% chance it will.

ring this time i think he will fight.myself 50 percent is good odds that folks will bet yes on in the UK..10 percent maybe ...if its vitali not wlad then i think its 95 percent a go..

cancelled is one thing .i think you mean completly called off.

dmar5143 wrote:cancelled is one thing .i think you mean completly called off.

Canceled, called off, just saying dmar, I don't believe a word that comes out of Haye's mouth, he's got 90 days to pussy out, I won't believe he'll fight a Klitschko until the bell rings.

I got to assume there is some kind of bail out clause for this, that if Haye bails and does not have a legit reason, his team will face heavy fines.

GrantZilla wrote:I got to assume there is some kind of bail out clause for this, that if Haye bails and does not have a legit reason, his team will face heavy fines.

How good of a 'legit reason' would he have to have? All he needs to do is feign an injury, problem solved.

Ring wrote:

GrantZilla wrote:I got to assume there is some kind of bail out clause for this, that if Haye bails and does not have a legit reason, his team will face heavy fines.

How good of a 'legit reason' would he have to have? All he needs to do is feign an injury, problem solved.

Legit being, if it's a injury, it's looked at by nuetral doctor. Having worked in the insurance business, common practice for people claiming injurry. Especialy when it sounds bogus. Have their supposed injurry reviewed by an outside clinic.

Boring, change the record already

Sky Sports are not going to go bankrupt within three months.

Ali wrote:Boring, change the record already

Sky Sports are not going to go bankrupt within three months.

That is what Haye is going to be doing if he has the guts to get into the ring with Wlad.

Ali wrote:Boring, change the record already

Sky Sports are not going to go bankrupt within three months.

this is true this is true. however. if David had still faced Wladimir and beaten him then imagine the paydays that Haye would have gotten after winning that contest. David's all about the money, which isn't a bad thing for him, but us fans suffer at that expense and have done throughout his Heavyweight career which i think has been a completely and utterly sugar coated piece of bullshit

If David Haye backs down from Wlad in this fight, in reputation is ruined. Believe me, he won't do that.

This is not a MW vs. Pac situation. Haye does not have a group of fans in England or Germany who will back him if he backs out of the fight. He doesn't have a fanatical fan group like Mayweather has in the states. He may make money for future fights if he fakes an injury but the fan backlash would be so extreme at this point, it would affect his future. I think Haye has made a decision (which is where I suspect he was having trouble. That and wanting a better contract.) and he will show up and fight. Regardless of the outcome, each man may be facing the best fighter they've ever faced.

This is just a guess, but I think most of you want to see a good fight. You've been so let down by Klits opponents in the past and you don't want to set yourself up for another disappointment by expecting something special only to see Wlad dominate David. I honestly don't think that's going to happen. Haye is just too fast for that. I think we'll see a good one here.

personally i think that Haye vs Wladimir is a 50/50 fight. i think the biggest deciding factor will be whether Wladimir can actually land anything on Haye. Haye will be circling away and making calculated in and out attacks. once he is within Wlad's reach it will be a matter of whether Haye can land what he needs to before getting tied up as most Klitschko opponents do. most Haye opponents get back up from his knockdowns though. Klitschko has shown before that he can be knocked down, get back up and still win a fight. Haye's stamina will be another factor. Klitschko will be able to put more pressure on Haye than Valuev's slow feet enabled him to do. if Haye can't get out of the way of Wladimir's jab then that could also be a deciding factor. if Wladimir lands one of them deceivingly powerful left hooks then i think it is curtains for Haye. also the straight right hand after the jab will be trouble for Haye IF Wladimir can land it. come fight night bthere will be something similar to a 30lb weight advantage in favour of Klitschko. if Haye doesn't get rid of Wladimir within the first 6 rounds then i think that will be the deciding factor.

despite all the bullshit getting this fight made, this is definitely going to be an exciting fight. how each of these fighters will be remembered will be decided on July 2nd because of these 12 rounds. if Haye wins then it backs up his big mouth and he is a 2 weight undisputed champion. if Klitschko wins then that will be the career defining victory he has been searching for, the one that he so desperately craves, and also all of the alphabet titles in the World will be split between the Klitschko brothers and they will be able to retire bragging their almost 10 year dominance of the Heavyweight division.

i'm excited and i can't wait, i'm a bit gutted that it won't be in the UK as i believe fans here are the best in the World and it would have created the best atmosphere for a fight of that magnitude possible. if it happens in Germany then that is not too bad, but please not Russia. that would really suck if they put the fight on in Russia. Russians are more boring then Germans

frank and dbudge both good posts and i agree in the content.haye i feel will have his moments in the fight.so will wlad.the fight does have possibiltes of a exciting fight for fans of both fighters.

dmar5143 wrote:frank and dbudge both good posts and i agree in the content.haye i feel will have his moments in the fight.so will wlad.the fight does have possibiltes of a exciting fight for fans of both fighters.

I'd love to see a good fight, but what I figure we'll see (if it actually happens) is Haye running, making an occasional bullrush and/or potshotting, throwing 15 punches a round, and trying to steal a decision, I hope i'm wrong.

Ring wrote:

dmar5143 wrote:frank and dbudge both good posts and i agree in the content.haye i feel will have his moments in the fight.so will wlad.the fight does have possibiltes of a exciting fight for fans of both fighters.

I'd love to see a good fight, but what I figure we'll see (if it actually happens) is Haye running, making an occasional bullrush and/or potshotting, throwing 15 punches a round, and trying to steal a decision, I hope i'm wrong.

Haye will definitely try to run and potshot. that is a certainty. but when he comes inside to land he is going to have to avoid that dominating jab. i think Klitshcko will be catching up with Haye a lot quicker than Valuev also and making Haye work harder and expend more energy having to amount his attacks more frequently. i think that even with Haye's potshotting tactic this will still be an excting fight

dbudge wrote:

Ring wrote:

dmar5143 wrote:frank and dbudge both good posts and i agree in the content.haye i feel will have his moments in the fight.so will wlad.the fight does have possibiltes of a exciting fight for fans of both fighters.

I'd love to see a good fight, but what I figure we'll see (if it actually happens) is Haye running, making an occasional bullrush and/or potshotting, throwing 15 punches a round, and trying to steal a decision, I hope i'm wrong.

Haye will definitely try to run and potshot. that is a certainty. but when he comes inside to land he is going to have to avoid that dominating jab. i think Klitshcko will be catching up with Haye a lot quicker than Valuev also and making Haye work harder and expend more energy having to amount his attacks more frequently. i think that even with Haye's potshotting tactic this will still be an excting fight

If Wlad lands the jab at all, the fight is over. Haye won't be able to stand up to it.

We'll just gloss over the fact that Wlad could just say his abdominal muscle isn't quite right and give him a free pass.

The fight will be competitive for maybe one or two rounds. That is all Haye has got. If he doesn't KO or seriously fuck up Wlad within that time, he's done.

Wlad will start off timid like he always does, but the longer the fight goes on, the more comfortable he will get. Add on, Gaye has got terrible stamina. No way he can last the full 12 rounds staying away from Wlad while trying to win the fight.

Norm1023 wrote:We'll just gloss over the fact that Wlad could just say his abdominal muscle isn't quite right and give him a free pass.

Vitali will step in if Wladimir hasn't recovered from his injury, it's in the contract.