Nishioka-Donaire for The Ring belt

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For thos of you that mistakenly think I blindly agree with The Ring. I do not agree with this at all.

nor do I.

this is bullshit.

Who promotes them?

flapanther2001 wrote:Who promotes them?

Donaire is with Top Rank and Nishioka is Japonese promoted

this isn't a case where number 1 (Nishioka) is well above the number 2 and 3 guys so beating either might make sense to make him champ.

And it isn't a case where a fight with number 2 (Rigo) can't be made.

This division is the epitome of a division where they need to really prove it in the ring, not by some bullshit ring magazine editorial approval.

I'm glad Donaire is fighting Nishioka over Arce, but these top guys need to start fighting each other in this division more often before anything can be for the ring belt. Now Donaire-Nishioka winner vs the Mares-Rigo winner(or something like that) should be for the Ring Belt...

I disagree as well. I think most of us mentioned that you should be demoted a few spots at the very least for inactivity and Nishioka will have been out of the ring for over a full year when this rolls around. Rigo vs Donaire is the fight in this division IMO. Ring Belt and P4P status up for grabs in that one but this one is a little off.

Fuck the ring.

so when ward beat froch (who was definitely the second best fighter at that weight) after beating the top guys at 168 he didnt get the ring belt, but donaire gets it without doing anything in the division and beating a top 5 guy? that makes sense...

powerpuncher wrote:so when ward beat froch (who was definitely the second best fighter at that weight) after beating the top guys at 168 he didnt get the ring belt, but donaire gets it without doing anything in the division and beating a top 5 guy? that makes sense...

Huh? Ward did get The Ring belt

GrantZilla wrote:

powerpuncher wrote:so when ward beat froch (who was definitely the second best fighter at that weight) after beating the top guys at 168 he didnt get the ring belt, but donaire gets it without doing anything in the division and beating a top 5 guy? that makes sense...

Huh? Ward did get The Ring belt

i thought that he got it after froch beat bute.

ring magazine has little credibilty in this action.there reasons are bullshit to justify filling a vacancy.there belt is now as legit as the abc boys in some cases.1.donaires 2 wins at 122 is more impressive then rigos wins they say.then why is he ranked number 3 rigo 2.2.donaire is high in the p4p list rigo isnt on it.im still puzzled a bit that rigos rated 2 donaire 3 in the division yet donaires high on the p4p list yet the 2 guys rated above him in that division are not on it or far below him in consideration for p4p.
as captain says its not a case of impossibilty that rigo or donaire cant fight each other or wont fight each other.thats one of there big reasons to justify a 1 vs 3 or a 2 vs 3 or a 1 vs even a 5 for there belt is it not.by ignoring that reason they went against there own policy..
in the future most of there belts to fill a vacancy will be cheap and phoney..its not only sad but a disgrace that the voice of boxing and its fans that once was a leader against nonsence in the sport has become a follower.join the crowd type of thing.the bible of boxing is becoming a comic book.
years ago if a fighter was inactive for 3 months he droped down in the rankings.example going from 4 to 6 and inactivity was the reason given and it was fair at that time.here we got the number 1 guy inactive for 10 months and the number 2 and 3 guys active and wining impressively..yet number 1 remains number 1..come on guys.
inconsistancy in policy or rankings if rare or not often is understandable at times even perhaps acceptible at times but blantant inconsistency monthly or weekly is not.when you make a new policy then violate it soon with phoney reasons to justify filling a vacancy is abc boys low.
its sad a shame its very disappointing that perhaps the last of the respected folks in boxing are no different then the blantant idiots that have fucked up our sport.
lets enjoy not only this fight but future ones and ignore the so called champion status of that fight which is a made up phoney illegit belt for the most part.
ring has been going in that downhill direction for a while.its a awfull shame and a awfull blow to the little bit left of boxings integrity..oh well.

I don't see why there should be outrage here, not like Mares vs. Donaire is happening anytime soon.

the so called outrage isnt against this fight at all.its against rings extremly flexable policy of convience to declare its for the ring belt..does this mean you agree with ring and or the mares fight is your first choice for the belt over rigo for example.

Nish is #1 and Nonito is #3.

Ali wrote:Nish is #1 and Nonito is #3.

..whats that mean ali.you mentioned mares.so please take a position on your statement by ansering my question.are you agreeing with ring this should be there for belt ignoring rigo or by your thoughts it should be mares first over nishioka..

In a perfect world Mares vs. Donaire would be happening in October for the Ring Belt.

But Donaire vs. Nishoika really is a championship quality fight I don't see any reason to complain.

Rigondeaux hasn't done enough to warrant a title fight IMO.

i see.the number 3 guy vs the number 7 guy for the ring belt.ignore the number 2 guy who hasnt done enough to get a title shot but is ranked number 2 out of kindness of rings heart.donaire-mares is a good fight but 3 vs 7 for the ring belt sure would give ring fantastic credibilty in a perfect world.interesting.

Please Mares and Donaire is the fight to make in that division.

im sure grant and captain will agree with you on that..so would ring mag lol.sorry its funny.3 vs 7 for the belt.

Dont worry fellas, Nishioka will mop the floor with Nonito

Ali wrote:In a perfect world Mares vs. Donaire would be happening in October for the Ring Belt.

But Donaire vs. Nishoika really is a championship quality fight I don't see any reason to complain.

Rigondeaux hasn't done enough to warrant a title fight IMO.

really? Rigo beat Ramos who was higher ranked than Mathebula.

gomez1012 wrote:Dont worry fellas, Nishioka will mop the floor with Nonito

Thats a tall task. Not saying it wont happen.

captainanddew wrote:

Ali wrote:In a perfect world Mares vs. Donaire would be happening in October for the Ring Belt.

But Donaire vs. Nishoika really is a championship quality fight I don't see any reason to complain.

Rigondeaux hasn't done enough to warrant a title fight IMO.

really? Rigo beat Ramos who was higher ranked than Mathebula.

It just feels wrong when his record is only 10-0-0

yes 10-0 isnt many fights.he could of padded his record to 18-0 20-0 by fighting stiffs.he beat a few good fighters and is ranked number 2.that qualifies him for a shot plus boxing fans want that fight.thats the bottom line.hollyfield got a title shot with only 11 fights.he like rigo was ready.both are not gimincs like pete radermaker fighting for the hw title in his very first fight nor leon spinks who was 6-0-1 who fought for the hw title and beat the self proclaimed greatest.the last 2 quality wise as a fighter realy were not ready nor have the abilty that rigo and hollyfield had at a similar stage career wise..both were world class at this early stage and far more advanced then fighters with far more fights in there divisions.thats what counts..or should we say donte wilder is 24-0 with 24 kos or years ago lamar clark was 43-0 with 43 kos are ready and deserve a title shot over rigo simply because they have more fights.