John Carter

hardcorebee24 wrote:

Hagler's Bald Head wrote:

GrantZilla wrote:

Hagler's Bald Head wrote:You don't need stars anymore to really sell a movie, guys like Will Smith and Tom Cruise are a dying breed. People today are more interested in intriguing story lines and crazy special effects.

Which Disney failed at showcasing. From what little advertising I saw of the movie, I could easily see how people would see it as a Avatar or Clash of the Titans knock off. People unfamiliar with Edgar Rice Burroughs, creator of Tarzan, stories.

And names people are familar with, whether they are actors or directors, certainly helps.

I agree Disney screwed up with the marketing. I liked the casting of Taylor, he's on the cusp of breaking out after making his name with Friday Night Lights.

Tim Riggins was a great character. I premiered that show back in '06. Its the best show NBC had in 30 years.

I've only just discovered it, I've been missing out.

Hagler's Bald Head wrote:

hardcorebee24 wrote:

Hagler's Bald Head wrote:

GrantZilla wrote:

Hagler's Bald Head wrote:You don't need stars anymore to really sell a movie, guys like Will Smith and Tom Cruise are a dying breed. People today are more interested in intriguing story lines and crazy special effects.

Which Disney failed at showcasing. From what little advertising I saw of the movie, I could easily see how people would see it as a Avatar or Clash of the Titans knock off. People unfamiliar with Edgar Rice Burroughs, creator of Tarzan, stories.

And names people are familar with, whether they are actors or directors, certainly helps.

I agree Disney screwed up with the marketing. I liked the casting of Taylor, he's on the cusp of breaking out after making his name with Friday Night Lights.

Tim Riggins was a great character. I premiered that show back in '06. Its the best show NBC had in 30 years.

I've only just discovered it, I've been missing out.

You and everyone else. We canceled this show three times and only continued it because DirecTV co-opted the show with us and we aired it as a mid season replacement for the final three years. The show is great and Lyla Garrity and Tyra Collette can get it. Even Julie Taylor in later season starts to look really healthy. The best is Coach Taylor's wife. She is tasty.

hardcorebee24 wrote:

Hagler's Bald Head wrote:

hardcorebee24 wrote:

Hagler's Bald Head wrote:

GrantZilla wrote:

Hagler's Bald Head wrote:You don't need stars anymore to really sell a movie, guys like Will Smith and Tom Cruise are a dying breed. People today are more interested in intriguing story lines and crazy special effects.

Which Disney failed at showcasing. From what little advertising I saw of the movie, I could easily see how people would see it as a Avatar or Clash of the Titans knock off. People unfamiliar with Edgar Rice Burroughs, creator of Tarzan, stories.

And names people are familar with, whether they are actors or directors, certainly helps.

I agree Disney screwed up with the marketing. I liked the casting of Taylor, he's on the cusp of breaking out after making his name with Friday Night Lights.

Tim Riggins was a great character. I premiered that show back in '06. Its the best show NBC had in 30 years.

I've only just discovered it, I've been missing out.

You and everyone else. We canceled this show three times and only continued it because DirecTV co-opted the show with us and we aired it as a mid season replacement for the final three years. The show is great and Lyla Garrity and Tyra Collette can get it. Even Julie Taylor in later season starts to look really healthy. The best is Coach Taylor's wife. She is tasty.

Canceled three times that's nuts, the networks in America are way too eager to cancels shows, I hear Community might be cut soon ?

Connie Britton is a Fox, watching her in those skimpy night dresses in American Horror story was a joy.

Hagler's Bald Head wrote:

hardcorebee24 wrote:

Hagler's Bald Head wrote:

hardcorebee24 wrote:

Hagler's Bald Head wrote:

GrantZilla wrote:

Hagler's Bald Head wrote:You don't need stars anymore to really sell a movie, guys like Will Smith and Tom Cruise are a dying breed. People today are more interested in intriguing story lines and crazy special effects.

Which Disney failed at showcasing. From what little advertising I saw of the movie, I could easily see how people would see it as a Avatar or Clash of the Titans knock off. People unfamiliar with Edgar Rice Burroughs, creator of Tarzan, stories.

And names people are familar with, whether they are actors or directors, certainly helps.

I agree Disney screwed up with the marketing. I liked the casting of Taylor, he's on the cusp of breaking out after making his name with Friday Night Lights.

Tim Riggins was a great character. I premiered that show back in '06. Its the best show NBC had in 30 years.

I've only just discovered it, I've been missing out.

You and everyone else. We canceled this show three times and only continued it because DirecTV co-opted the show with us and we aired it as a mid season replacement for the final three years. The show is great and Lyla Garrity and Tyra Collette can get it. Even Julie Taylor in later season starts to look really healthy. The best is Coach Taylor's wife. She is tasty.

Canceled three times that's nuts, the networks in America are way too eager to cancels shows, I hear Community might be cut soon ?

Connie Britton is a Fox, watching her in those skimpy night dresses in American Horror story was a joy.

Comminity is BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!! Twitter campaign from fans got it back on air. The bold is absolutely correct. Lately all we do is rip off your shows and call them groundbreaking here.

hardcorebee24 wrote:

Hagler's Bald Head wrote:

hardcorebee24 wrote:

Hagler's Bald Head wrote:

hardcorebee24 wrote:

Hagler's Bald Head wrote:

GrantZilla wrote:

Hagler's Bald Head wrote:You don't need stars anymore to really sell a movie, guys like Will Smith and Tom Cruise are a dying breed. People today are more interested in intriguing story lines and crazy special effects.

Which Disney failed at showcasing. From what little advertising I saw of the movie, I could easily see how people would see it as a Avatar or Clash of the Titans knock off. People unfamiliar with Edgar Rice Burroughs, creator of Tarzan, stories.

And names people are familar with, whether they are actors or directors, certainly helps.

I agree Disney screwed up with the marketing. I liked the casting of Taylor, he's on the cusp of breaking out after making his name with Friday Night Lights.

Tim Riggins was a great character. I premiered that show back in '06. Its the best show NBC had in 30 years.

I've only just discovered it, I've been missing out.

You and everyone else. We canceled this show three times and only continued it because DirecTV co-opted the show with us and we aired it as a mid season replacement for the final three years. The show is great and Lyla Garrity and Tyra Collette can get it. Even Julie Taylor in later season starts to look really healthy. The best is Coach Taylor's wife. She is tasty.

Canceled three times that's nuts, the networks in America are way too eager to cancels shows, I hear Community might be cut soon ?

Connie Britton is a Fox, watching her in those skimpy night dresses in American Horror story was a joy.

Comminity is BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!! Twitter campaign from fans got it back on air. The bold is absolutely correct. Lately all we do is rip off your shows and call them groundbreaking here.

That's great to hear, the second season has finally found a decent network here and starts in April

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, I really liked your version of Shameless.

Hagler's Bald Head wrote:

That's great to hear, the second season has finally found a decent network here and starts in April

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, I really liked your version of Shameless.

That's because Emmy Rossum isn't bashful.

hardcorebee24 wrote:

Hagler's Bald Head wrote:

That's great to hear, the second season has finally found a decent network here and starts in April

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, I really liked your version of Shameless.

That's because Emmy Rossum isn't bashful.

That's ashame.

Hagler's Bald Head wrote:That's ashame.

Yeah. I've seen far worst movies. But the budget of 250 million without even knowing if there was an audience was insane. Just read 100 million was spent on advertising. Fuck!

Read today in the Wallstreet Journal this movie will go down as the biggest financial flop in movie history, and will hurt Disney for a while.

GrantZilla wrote:

Hagler's Bald Head wrote:That's ashame.

Yeah. I've seen far worst movies. But the budget of 250 million without even knowing if there was an audience was insane. Just read 100 million was spent on advertising. Fuck!

Read today in the Wallstreet Journal this movie will go down as the biggest financial flop in movie history, and will hurt Disney for a while.

Just re-release some animated features in 3D and they'll make their money back. Disney is a bunch of evil bastards anyway. Fuck em. I was hoping and predicted this movie to do well, boy was I wrong.

hardcorebee24 wrote:Just re-release some animated features in 3D and they'll make their money back. Disney is a bunch of evil bastards anyway. Fuck em. I was hoping and predicted this movie to do well, boy was I wrong.

It wasn't a bad movie. It sure as fuck wasn't close to being as bad as the Transformer movies, and those movies raked in a fortune. But then again, Carter did not have a built in audience like Transformers does. That's Michael Bay's hack work at it's best. Take something with a big market audience and destroy it with his hack work.

GrantZilla wrote:

hardcorebee24 wrote:Just re-release some animated features in 3D and they'll make their money back. Disney is a bunch of evil bastards anyway. Fuck em. I was hoping and predicted this movie to do well, boy was I wrong.

It wasn't a bad movie. It sure as fuck wasn't close to being as bad as the Transformer movies, and those movies raked in a fortune. But then again, Carter did not have a built in audience like Transformers does. That's Michael Bay's hack work at it's best. Take something with a big market audience and destroy it with his hack work.

I had no compassion for machines that looked like machines. Transformers was terrible. The Shia Le Douche story line part was really bad. The only machine I had compassion for was Skynet's T-800.

GrantZilla wrote:

Hagler's Bald Head wrote:That's ashame.

Yeah. I've seen far worst movies. But the budget of 250 million without even knowing if there was an audience was insane. Just read 100 million was spent on advertising. Fuck!

Read today in the Wallstreet Journal this movie will go down as the biggest financial flop in movie history, and will hurt Disney for a while.

Disney aren't going to be bothered, they raked it in with the Caribbean franchise and have The Avengers next month.

Empire's 8 reasons why it bombed.

http://www.empireonline.com/empireblogs/empire-states/post/p1208

http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/john-carter/user-reviews/?

Overwhelmingly positive reviews from regular folks.