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Post  hardcorebee24 Mon Dec 20, 2010 1:52 pm

Looked very ordinary in Saturday's fight with a guy not even ranked in the top Fifty. Dawson is doing detriment not making this fight. The guy that Cloud beat was naturally smaller and was KO'd by Pavlik and Bute. Cloud has called out Chad, Chad should give him what he wants.
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Post  gomez1012 Mon Dec 20, 2010 1:56 pm

Just fight any of the names at 175 and Im good

Pascal, Hopkins, Dawson, Cloud, Shumenov/Brahmer winner, Diaconu, Cleverly, even Librado Andrade
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Post  gomez1012 Mon Dec 20, 2010 1:59 pm

And Zuniga only been stopped twice

Pavlik when he was on a tear at 160, TKO 9

And to Bute who scored a great body shot KO
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Post  Guest Mon Dec 20, 2010 2:01 pm

I've got ZERO issues with a guy fighting a tune-up, stay active fight and looking less than 100%. I prefer they fight stay active, tune-up fights.

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Post  hardcorebee24 Mon Dec 20, 2010 2:02 pm

gomez1012 wrote:And Zuniga only been stopped twice

Pavlik when he was on a tear at 160, TKO 9

And to Bute who scored a great body shot KO

I know that and both times at a smaller weight. Cloud is supposed to be this KO artist. He's flat footed and fights in spurts the only fear he had was being able to KO people, doesn't seem to have the power people thought in the step in competition. This guy was put there for him to KO.
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Post  hardcorebee24 Mon Dec 20, 2010 2:03 pm

marbleheadmaui wrote:I've got ZERO issues with a guy fighting a tune-up, stay active fight and looking less than 100%. I prefer they fight stay active, tune-up fights.

Sure but Cloud is trying to make a case that he is a contender to be the MAN. He needed IMO to KO this guy. I'm also getting on Dawson with my post that he should have made the fight once Cloud called him out.
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Post  gomez1012 Mon Dec 20, 2010 2:07 pm

hardcorebee24 wrote:I know that and both times at a smaller weight. Cloud is supposed to be this KO artist. He's flat footed and fights in spurts the only fear he had was being able to KO people, doesn't seem to have the power people thought in the step in competition. This guy was put there for him to KO.

Not IMO, had gone the distance in his last 2 fights

Johnson, Woods, and 10 rds of punishment before finally stopping Gonzalez

He's trouble for any of the LHWs right now
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Post  hardcorebee24 Mon Dec 20, 2010 2:09 pm

gomez1012 wrote:

Not IMO, had gone the distance in his last 2 fights

Johnson, Woods, and 10 rds of punishment before finally stopping Gonzalez

He's trouble for any of the LHWs right now

I think he's very ordinary. He was touted as a guy with huge power. KO'd his first 19 opponents before six rounds or something like that.
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Post  gomez1012 Mon Dec 20, 2010 2:11 pm

hardcorebee24 wrote:I think he's very ordinary. He was touted as a guy with huge power. KO'd his first 19 opponents before six rounds or something like that.

Agreed, but stays busy, keeps coming forward, and a good chin. He beat up Johnson pretty good.

High KO record is the result of healthy tomato can diet early in his career
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Post  hardcorebee24 Mon Dec 20, 2010 2:14 pm

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hardcorebee24 wrote:I think he's very ordinary. He was touted as a guy with huge power. KO'd his first 19 opponents before six rounds or something like that.

Agreed, but stays busy, keeps coming forward, and a good chin. He beat up Johnson pretty good.

Those high KO record is the result of healthy tomato can diet early in his career

I think I noted that. For the record he beat Johnson but Johnson did more damage than he should have. He also had a tough fight with an old Clinton Woods. I just don't think that Cloud is very special. His feet are slow and his defense sucks, he takes way too many big shots and seems soft in the body, Johnson was destroying his body. I want him and Chad to fight.
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Post  gomez1012 Mon Dec 20, 2010 2:18 pm

Idk, Chad might eat him up, might.

Im more likely to rely on the guy who brings it each time. He'll be on Timid Chad all night

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Post  hardcorebee24 Mon Dec 20, 2010 2:21 pm

gomez1012 wrote:Idk, Chad might eat him up, might.

Im more likely to rely on the guy who brings it each time. He'll be on Timid Chad all night


Might is why I want to see FIGHT!!!
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Post  gomez1012 Mon Dec 20, 2010 2:27 pm

hardcorebee24 wrote:Might is why I want to see FIGHT!!!

These promoters suck now a days

Id love to see Arum and King running shit again

Fucking seagulls to the networks, hoping to find any crumb HBO/Showtime drops to them

Shaw & Schaefer begging for their guys to get a fight....smh
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Post  hardcorebee24 Mon Dec 20, 2010 2:29 pm

Gary Shaw promoting fights in Washington and Shaefer killing his prospects makes for networks to shy away from their fighters.
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Post  gomez1012 Mon Dec 20, 2010 2:31 pm

bunch of shit...

They should of left that bantamweight tourney in Mexico

Schaefer needs to go away
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Post  hardcorebee24 Mon Dec 20, 2010 2:41 pm

gomez1012 wrote:bunch of shit...

They should of left that bantamweight tourney in Mexico

Schaefer needs to go away

Or at least So Cal, Texas, New Mexico or Arizona.
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