Freddie Roach to train Povetkin for Wlad clash

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Freddie Roach to train Povetkin for Wlad clash

Post  gomez1012 on Wed Jul 03, 2013 5:48 pm

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Re: Freddie Roach to train Povetkin for Wlad clash

Post  Jaime Lannister on Wed Jul 03, 2013 6:33 pm

Too late Povetkin is what he is now.

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Re: Freddie Roach to train Povetkin for Wlad clash

Post  powerpuncher on Thu Jul 04, 2013 2:50 am

all of roach's fighters end up getting KO'd so povetkin will be no different.
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Re: Freddie Roach to train Povetkin for Wlad clash

Post  captainanddew on Thu Jul 04, 2013 2:40 pm

Correct- He is getting KO'd. Correct-he is what he is already.

Povetkin is in his 30s, had a gazillion amateur fights, and has been a pro for a long time. he isn't going to change. He is a little soft looking in appearance. He isn't nearly assertive enough in the ring. Eddie Chambers was outboxing him for half a fight and then just plain froze (and not when Povetkin had done anything to change the fight).


To paraphrase someone from Ringside (whatever the sky sports boxing podcast is called), when fighters keep changing trainers they need to pull a Michael Jackson and look at the "man in the mirror". A lot of these guys that seem to really go through trainers (guys like Povetkin, Dawson, etc....) are very similar. Guys who have good amateur backgrounds, pretty good skills, but don't seem to love the sport or display real assertiveness in the ring.

Boxing is simple. Throw a stiff jab. Sit down on your punches and let them go. Defend well. And when you get a guy hurt go after him. All the trainers in the world can come in and tell a guy to do these things, but as long as the fighters have the mental makeup of a Povetkin or a Dawson, nothing will change.

Trainers can't change the mental makeup of a fighter that easily. It is something inside them. You get in the ring and it reveals what you are.

Trainers like Roache are more helpful in taking guys who have a real assertiveness and physical talent and improving their technique and ring iq (like he did with Pac who had talent but hadn't been really taught the sport up to that time).

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Post  hardcorebee24 on Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:17 am

powerpuncher wrote:all of roach's fighters end up getting KO'd so povetkin will be no different.

All had been KO'd by lesser competition prior to training with Roach. These are chinny guys that Roach got the most out of and they were KO'd but top competition only after Roach took them to the top and they won belts. Don't blame Roach, he gets the most out of his fighters.
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Re: Freddie Roach to train Povetkin for Wlad clash

Post  Diego408 on Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:38 pm

Roach is an overrated trainer. He has never ha a homegrown champion. He is a big name trainer because of Pacquiao but most of the fighters that go to him see little success.
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Re: Freddie Roach to train Povetkin for Wlad clash

Post  powerpuncher on Sun Jul 07, 2013 1:16 am

hardcorebee24 wrote:
powerpuncher wrote:all of roach's fighters end up getting KO'd so povetkin will be no different.

All had been KO'd by lesser competition prior to training with Roach.  These are chinny guys that Roach got the most out of and they were KO'd but top competition only after Roach took them to the top and they won belts.  Don't blame Roach, he gets the most out of his fighters.
ive never seen him fix the problem though.
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Re: Freddie Roach to train Povetkin for Wlad clash

Post  dmar5143 on Sun Jul 07, 2013 1:22 am

actualy its been reported by fat dan that roach is not training povetkin..he lost chavez as they parted company but picked up cotto for his fight against rodriguez...woopie.freddies a good trainer but i agree overated.
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