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Post  dmar5143 on Sat Jan 26, 2013 3:42 pm

on the surface it sounds like a awsome offer.its on espns boxing page.shaffer claims no strings attached.arum will be given a title in association with top rank presents.arum can bring his banner to the fight etc etc.nice flowery words from golden boy and shaffer..whats the catch.none schaffer claims.realy.heres a few thoughts.indeed i feel showtime will pony up 3 mil for this fight and it will sell out staples center.1.the 3 million doesnt go to donaire but to be split between arum donaire and his management.does that mean arum in name only is co promoter.lets say 1 mil step aside for bob 500 k for donaires manager and 1.5 for donaire.good payday yes but2.is donaire under contract with hbo and if so how do the 2 networks agree on the fight.3.if this is a ppv the offer says nothing about back end money for donaire and company nor anything about a ppv which golden boy could clean up on...4.nothing in the article said mares fee or money.
plenty of questions indeed.is this a PR move by shaffer.5.will bob come back and say ill give mares 3.2 mil you guys split that up and ill be in charge under the same conditions.
what are your thoughts.
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Post  dmar5143 on Sat Jan 26, 2013 4:00 pm

i just re read it again and shaffer said vegas plus open bidding for the fight between hbo and showtime plus giving arum the library rights to the fight.thats a important concession...shaffer claimed arum low balled mares by offering 1 mil for gb mares and management to split up..i agree on that.donaires folks have wanted to do this fight so balls in arums court.
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Post  powerpuncher on Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:49 pm

hopefully they can get this fight made. from a boxing fan stand point, i would say this is a top 3 fight that can be made in boxing. they are both top 10 p4p fighters which is always big. obviously arum knows what he is doing as a promoter but i believe that after so long being the big shot, he just has a huge ego and wants everything his way. there is no reason this fight shouldnt be made though.
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Post  hardcorebee24 on Sat Jan 26, 2013 6:10 pm

Take the fight. Legacy does pay bills.
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Post  captainanddew on Sat Jan 26, 2013 10:12 pm

as steve kim pointed out on twitter, it isn't just top rank vs gb, it is showtime vs hbo. HBO does not like the guys that it considers (and wants to keep exclusively) as HBO fighters to fight anywhere else.

It isn't just who is promoting the fight, but also where it is shown. 2 battles that are going to go on here.

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Post  Diego408 on Mon Jan 28, 2013 3:29 am

Actually GBP said they're selling the fight to the highest bidding network. GBP and Mares want the fight, Donaire and Top Rank don't. GBP with these deal will make Donaire look like a joke if he doesn't take it. I honestly don't believe Arum wants Donaire to fight Mares and I don't believe Donaire is too thrilled for it either.
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Post  Soonermark890 on Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:38 am

That sounds like a good deal for bob. He does nothing and gets paid. Danaire is the one that might get screwed. Either way they need to make this fight. I agree with hardcore

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Post  powerpuncher on Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:33 am

like i said, its one of the more rare times when 2 top 10 p4p fighters are actually in the same division. theres no reason this fight shouldnt happen.
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Post  powerpuncher on Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:34 am

remember when arum wanted to wait out a gamboa-lopez fight so that it would become huge? haha. idiot.
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Post  Diego408 on Tue Jan 29, 2013 5:56 pm

It sounds like Donaire is going to duck Mares. The Donaire's don't want to sign it because of the "Fine Print" in the contract. The Doanir's will not see this kind of money again in one fight. This is BS! This is why I didn't agree with anyone claiming Donaire was fighter of the year last year. He totally avoided mares and Rigo and fought lesser fighters. You cant be called fighter of the year when you don't fight the best guys in your division.
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Post  captainanddew on Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:43 pm

there is the network problem. Unless GB agrees to letting HBO have the fight there probably won't be a deal.

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Post  powerpuncher on Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:45 am

fat dan was writing on twitter that donaire said it was only a letter written and not a contract but fat dan said it was 13 pages with all of the details and was pretty much a contract. like diego said, im calling it a duck if the fight doesnt happen. mares has fought the best during his last however many fights. donaire hasnt. now mares wants to fight donaire, and donaire doesnt want the fight.

the are trying to now make a rigo fight against donaire to maybe make the fans happy he is finally fighting rigo. too late now. mares is in the weight class so that fight needs to happen.
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Post  dmar5143 on Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:45 am

first guys relax.post after post knocking donaire .ill remind everyone that several on here said donaire will never fight the guy from japan bob wont let him.both he and rigo at one time were ranked above donaire.donaire fights him and crushes him.then you guys say he will never fight rigo.now that the fight is talked about as a reality your bitching.
to many times on here you guys think because a fighter does this childish calling out that that fight over others should be made now..nonsence like this calling out stuff..ive said theres only one way to call out a guy is send him a bonifide contract signed with fair terms..mares did this.thats to be respected.
diego no where did i read donaire didnt like the fine print.tell us exactly where you read that and what the so called fine print was.dan r makes no mention of that to my knowledge.so untill then ill view it as fiction just to knock donaire.
dan r suggests that the date before june 30 cant be met since donaire is on line for a april fight and perhaps sooner if bradley says no to gamboa then a rigo fight in march could happen.
dans saying maybe the fall or in my mind maybe august the mares fight will be a go.so if its rigo then stop the bitching for just about all you guys said that fight will never happen and rigo is a guy donaire must fight.the money donaire can make for rigo will be close to the mares offer when you look at what goes to donaire.
a guy can only fight 1 fight at a time.i have no problem with rigo whos ranked above mares.IF donaire wins mares fight will happen next.as of today i think donaire crushes him inside 8.
if he beats both some of you say he must fight broner next.or its a duck.
here we got a kid who takes drug testing all year round.is a gentlemen with class thus far in interviews.has said he will fight anyone in his class in time.thats because you fight one at a time.
i like both fighters and the fight will happen and ill root for donaire even though i rooted for mares in all his fights.
so guys go back and review your posts where you have said donaires ducking rigo.he must fight him.now that it could happen your complaining here..lets get real guys.
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Post  hardcorebee24 on Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:40 pm

Supposedly the offer is bogus and GBP is trying to make Bob and Donaire look bad. Fuck Mares, fight Rigo instead. I just want to see Donaire fight either guy, I don't care who. I'm actually sick of these no name Cubans with 7 fights calling everyone out then looking amateurish when a network or promoter gives them a platform. Gamboa, Lara, Rigo, the fat fuck Heavyweight whose knee buckled because he's a fat fuck have all looked less than stellar on the big stage and more than once. Rigo's best win is Rico Ramos, big fucking deal. Donaire should stop pussyfooting in interviews and just say "Look I want to kick the shit out of all these guys so talk to Bob and tell him to take the tampon out and make the fights."
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Post  dmar5143 on Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:41 pm

hardcore good points.
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Post  Diego408 on Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:47 pm

hardcorebee24 wrote:Supposedly the offer is bogus and GBP is trying to make Bob and Donaire look bad. Fuck Mares, fight Rigo instead. I just want to see Donaire fight either guy, I don't care who. I'm actually sick of these no name Cubans with 7 fights calling everyone out then looking amateurish when a network or promoter gives them a platform. Gamboa, Lara, Rigo, the fat fuck Heavyweight whose knee buckled because he's a fat fuck have all looked less than stellar on the big stage and more than once. Rigo's best win is Rico Ramos, big fucking deal. Donaire should stop pussyfooting in interviews and just say "Look I want to kick the shit out of all these guys so talk to Bob and tell him to take the tampon out and make the fights."
No the deal is not bogus. Its 3 million for TR and the Doanire's. The problem with it is the language. They don't like that if Mares gets hurt, it will limit Donaire from fight in the summer with a possible postponement, also there was also no specific date or network and Donaire can only fight April 13th on HBO. The problem is the Donaire's and TR aren't trying to touch up the contract to make the fight.

GBP put their money where their mouth is and the Doanire doesn't want to fight. They're ignoring it and moving on with Rigo. Mares tweeted Doanire to make his counter offer and he is more than willing to fight April 13th on. Ive been following the situation on twitter.
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Post  dmar5143 on Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:31 pm

i read the so called contract.yes its bogus.first i dont see mares name anywhere to sign yet theres one for donaire to sign..then theres donaire must do this or do that like take out a life insurance policy state that hes not on drugs or in rehab or medication that could alter his performance.donaire must make him self avalible to promote the fight and several other things.no where does it say mares must do the same thing.then the laughable clause of the contents are confidential yet golden boy gives dan r lol the contract.yes the possibilty that they can hold donaire hostage up to 9 months of inactivity. and other things are valid to say nope..again where is mares name mentioned that hes required to do the same thing as donaire..tweets are bullshit.
if the fights ever made its hbo or nothing.if i were arum id so no also..rigo chris john maybe vic thoses fights can be made..shaffer came up with a publicity stunt its backfiring.again no where on there is mares signature..
april 13 isnt far away or a fight sooner.consintrate on that and screw this bullshit..arum top rank must do this must pay this etc etc yet us golden boys own everything and we will give you the money AFTER the fight.realy lol..
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Post  dmar5143 on Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:53 pm

diego again it says no where in the contract that if mares gets hurt postponing the fight.no where .it does say promoter or gb can postpone the fight for ANY reason..it does mention injury by donaire ONLY and the word used is a CLAIM of injury where golden boy has the right to examine donaire.no where is top rank given any right to examine mares if a CLAIM of injury occurs.lets call it like it is.one sided slop.period.
the problem doesnt lie with top rank not wanting to touch up the contract..lol touch up like its minor adjustments.its one sided crap not a contract..
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Post  powerpuncher on Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:24 am

so then why doesnt TR come back with a counter offer? my problem is that i feel like fighters who are known as "good guys" get a pass on too many things. donaire has been as high as #3 p4p before. he just won FOTY. if it were mayweather (i always bring up him because he gets so much hate for ducking people), then everybody would be saying its a blatant duck against mares. but because donaire is a good guy that takes drug tests and seems polite, he isnt ducking mares.

for the record, i never said the donaire would never fight that japanese guy. i hardly knew anything about him other than he really only fought in japan. and i said that he may be looking to fight rigo now to avoid mares. if he does fight rigo and then mares, i wont call him a ducker. i promise. but until he fights mares, im saying that he is ducking him. and if he beats mares, i will give him a ton of respect.

i mean seriously, 2 top 10 p4p fighters not fighting each other and all of the sudden its alright? all of the sudden its not a duck. just like pac never ducked anyone but mayweather ducked everyone. there is too much bias for peoples favorite fighters. if the roles were reversed and mares didnt fight donaire, i guarantee you guys would be calling it a duck.
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Post  captainanddew on Fri Feb 01, 2013 6:36 pm

from a steve kim piece:

But again, I’m just a boxing writer, not a lawyer or someone who specializes in contracts. So knowing what I don’t know, I asked someone (with no dog in this fight) who has been in the business for a few decades, has dealt with both Golden Boy and Top Rank and has made big fights for years, to look it over and asked the validity of this offer. Here’s the feedback I received:



I would not sign this in a million years. It is a trap. There is no way for Top Rank to ensure that it will ever get paid. Golden Boy, for example, could declare that Top Rank has breached the agreement in some way or that Top Rank owes them money due to some past legal dispute and simply not pay them. Then Top Rank would be left holding the bag and be forced to pay Donaire while suing Golden Boy for the money that Top Rank is owed.



When we promote fights like this, with such big numbers involved, we agree that the TV network, for example, will direct deposit the money owed to us into our account after the fight. Or we agree to have the promoter put the money up ahead of time in an escrow account or a letter of credit. In that case, payment is protected.



I would not sign this and there isn’t a competent attorney on Earth who would direct their client to make a deal like this. You always have to find a mechanism to guarantee payment. You don’t sign a piece of paper, put yourself on the hook for millions of dollars owed to your fighter and then hope that your mortal enemy will pay you when the fight is over!



The lack of any kind of payment guarantee jumps out at me so fast that I can’t even focus on the rest of this! Ridiculous!



One other note, there is no reason in the world for Top Rank to have to show a copy of their contract with Donaire to GB. TR would have to file it with the commission at some point. It varies from state to state whether or not this becomes public record. Again, GB is just trying to get a look at Donaire’s deal. I can’t believe they think that Arum would be stupid enough to fall for all this. I assure you, he is not.”



And here are some specifics that were then later explained to me:



1. There is no date, venue, television network or sponsors named in this contract, except that it will be no later than June 30 and in the United States. GB would have sole control of this promotion in every respect. Our promotional contracts with our own fighters are not that restrictive.



2. There is no payment guarantee. TR will be on the hook for paying Donaire even if GB never pays them.



3. The “in association with” billing seems like a nice gesture but TR has its own sponsors and that might actually violate their agreements with those sponsors, especially because the language in that clause makes it clear that GB’s sponsors will share in the billing. Golden Boy, having its own sponsor deals, should know that.



4. Credentials: Why would TR only be entitled to a “reasonable number” of credentials when other credentials and travel details are so thoroughly laid out? This is one example of how they are setting a trap for TR - details regarding the fighter’s needs are spelled out but the promoters’ are vague and left to GB’s “reasonable” determinations. Even, interestingly, in the preceding paragraph, the 20 tickets are “for use by Donaire” - one could argue that if TR used the tickets, they technically violated the agreement, which brings us back to the payment clause that denies payment for any breach by TR (usually financial penalties are limited to a “material” breach).



5. Sanctioning: Although the recitals state that this will be a world championship bout, there is no indication which alphabet sanctioning body - if any - would be involved. I haven’t looked into it but my first thought is that this choice could result in Donaire having to forfeit his belt. Additionally, in championship contests, all promoters usually have some say in the selection of judges. There is no provision for that in this agreement.



6. Site/Broadcaster: It is not unusual to include in bout agreements or POS that the fighters will comply with the requirements of the site/broadcaster. In this case, I would object to that. Showtime is in GB’s pocket, there is no telling what their “requirements” might be and no limiting language that would prevent them from doing anything non-standard.



7. Walk Out Music Licensed by TR: I’ve never seen a clause like this before. It’s just weird. GB might require that TR either have the rights to the music OR choose music covered by GB’s or the site’s music license.



8. Medical examinations for non-appearance insurance: GB can require that TR/Donaire comply with all requirements of the insurance company but I’m not sure why GB should be entitled to see medical records.



9. Footage of Donaire: This requires TR to give GB “reasonable excerpts from all footage” of Donaire that TR owns for use in publicity and promotion of the fight and all of the Ancillary Rights. First, that’s an awfully broad request. Second, the Ancillary Rights are quite expansive and continue in perpetuity, including merchandising and licensing footage in the future forever. I would never grant those kinds of rights to our footage. Essentially, GB would be entitled to post clips of every Donaire fight TR owns the rights to (at whatever duration they feel is reasonable) on their website to “promote Mares” or “encourage merchandise sales” or “make something up and put it in quotations.”



10. Postponement: The original “final date” for the bout is June 30th. However, GB can postpone that date for ninety days “for any reason whatsoever.” TR and Donaire can “reasonably” agree or not with the proposed rescheduling but not the postponement itself. In combination with the “No Interim Bout” clause and the cancellation provisions, GB can keep Donaire on the shelf until the end of September and incur no financial liabilities to TR or Donaire whatsoever.



11. The “Integrity” Clause: At no time, would I ever put Golden Boy or Showtime in the position of determining (conclusively) whether (our company) or its fighter violated such a clause. There is a place for this kind of condition but in a case like this, I’d insist on an arbitrator. There are times when the television network will suffice but this isn’t one of them.



12. Confidentiality - GB has already violated this clause. Of course, it was not binding on them because TR didn’t sign but still. That also brings me to the point that it is possible that Donaire has a multi-fight deal with HBO that this agreement would violate. He and TR may be bound by confidentiality not to reveal it publicly.



13. Assignment: This clause raises a red flag for me. It’s not odd that GB would want to be able to assign portions of this agreement - for instance, they’d need to be able to assign certain rights to TV networks. It is odd that it specifies that TR can’t assign it because Donaire’s services are personal and of the essence. First, if TR wanted to assign their right of payment, they should certainly be able to do that. They could also assign their obligations. This is a provision of services agreement for the services of Nonito Donaire. Anyone who has the right to Donaire’s services can fulfill the obligations under this contract. What’s interesting is that it does not make a similar provision for the services of Mares. I don’t think anyone could successfully argue that GB could switch out opponents but it strikes me as VERY odd.

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Post  dmar5143 on Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:59 am

captain thanks for this post.as i pointed out the money to be paid after the fight lol.postponement for ANY reason plus other things including so called confidence clause..this breaking down the PR move hopefully will make out posters aware its simply that.a so called counter offer isnt warranted since in reality gb has not made a legit fair offer in the form of a strong letter of intent or offer.
as arum stated fights and offers are not going to be made publicaly for the medias thirst.business is not done that way unless one company ala gb wants to create a good guy image lol.
also as pointed out in the article and by both of us the complications of network contracts as well as sponsers etc etc.
hopefully the call that donaire doesnt want this fight is stoped.its unfair and viewing this pr offer we also should not say mares doesnt want this fight.
fans should be happy if a rigo fight becomes a reality after all a ton of posters on here said nope bob wont allow that.donaires afraid and other BS.
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Post  dmar5143 on Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:05 am

i also like reason 13..HELLO.
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Post  powerpuncher on Sun Feb 03, 2013 4:11 am

i dont really care about the specifics. again, it shows that they want the fight against donaire. TR should say that the contract is unfair and say that they will sit down and discuss the terms of the fight. if you think gb is bluffing about wanting the fight then call the bluff. dont just say its a ridiculous offer and then dismiss the fight.

again, if donaire fights rigo and then mares, i will have no problem with that whatsoever. but if he doesnt fight mares after that then its a blatant duck.
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Post  dmar5143 on Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:45 am

PP no disrespect intended at all for i feel that you have made several good interesting posts in the past but here your dead wrong.first its more then obvious in life you have litterly no experience in negotiating a somewhat high level contract.captain im sure has i most certainly have several times over.if you realy dont care about the specifics then you have no valid input on this topic.calling donaire a blantant ducker is a joke and ill explain why during this post.
first it was shaffer who basicaly said im tired as being viewed the badboy and ill prove to the world so to speak that we GB want to work out this fight.so he sends a 13 page so called contract stating we are giving donaire everything but in reality there given nothing.he sends something as writer kim points out with full knowledge that arum wont sign the thing as well anticipating arums correct reaction.he sent something that kims sourse said no lawyer worth his salt in this field would approve this thing.
call it like it is a PR ploy that has backfired.its not a bluff its a tool to antaginize arum and gb hoped it would show them as a deal maker..arum has made deals with dibella duva and don king in a few days without this nonsence.everyone in boxing including the fighters have expressed that the hatred between these 2 is deep and it yes hurts the game and fighters ion the long run.this bs adds to it.
you calling for a counter offer like mares did is absub.immagine in a small city you have a house in a desireable location that is appraised at 250 000 dollars.all comps that have sold in the area reflect that 250 is the going rate.you put the house up for sale at 250..along comes a so called buyer and offers 45000.you say no and are under no obligation to counter offer.the offer isnt bonifide same as the gb thing.
donaire will move up to 126 not to avoid mares since a few days ago mares said hes moving up to 126 cause 122 is hard to make.at 126 i see donaire trying to make chris john fight for another phoney belt number 5.then theres mickey garcia in arums fold who i feel is a far more dangerous fight for donaire then mares is.
mares has stated a few times its not me nor donaire.we want to fight each other.im not afraid of him and donaires not afraid of me.its the promoters mares said.yep true and maybe networks also.
again no counter offer is needed.you want one ok then if i were arum id send the same thing back to them offering mares 2.5 million far more then mares worth since he is slighly less desireable then donaire.do you think golden boy and mr shaffer would say yes to there own offer which they claim is fair..hell no.
rigos folks and arum need to consintrate on making that fight happen and not waste time energy and unneeded anger over this PR stunt.by the way contracts are all about specifics.
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Post  powerpuncher on Mon Feb 04, 2013 3:46 am

dmar5143 wrote:PP no disrespect intended at all for i feel that you have made several good interesting posts in the past but here your dead wrong.first its more then obvious in life you have litterly no experience in negotiating a somewhat high level contract.captain im sure has i most certainly have several times over.if you realy dont care about the specifics then you have no valid input on this topic.calling donaire a blantant ducker is a joke and ill explain why during this post.
first it was shaffer who basicaly said im tired as being viewed the badboy and ill prove to the world so to speak that we GB want to work out this fight.so he sends a 13 page so called contract stating we are giving donaire everything but in reality there given nothing.he sends something as writer kim points out with full knowledge that arum wont sign the thing as well anticipating arums correct reaction.he sent something that kims sourse said no lawyer worth his salt in this field would approve this thing.
call it like it is a PR ploy that has backfired.its not a bluff its a tool to antaginize arum and gb hoped it would show them as a deal maker..arum has made deals with dibella duva and don king in a few days without this nonsence.everyone in boxing including the fighters have expressed that the hatred between these 2 is deep and it yes hurts the game and fighters ion the long run.this bs adds to it.
you calling for a counter offer like mares did is absub.immagine in a small city you have a house in a desireable location that is appraised at 250 000 dollars.all comps that have sold in the area reflect that 250 is the going rate.you put the house up for sale at 250..along comes a so called buyer and offers 45000.you say no and are under no obligation to counter offer.the offer isnt bonifide same as the gb thing.
donaire will move up to 126 not to avoid mares since a few days ago mares said hes moving up to 126 cause 122 is hard to make.at 126 i see donaire trying to make chris john fight for another phoney belt number 5.then theres mickey garcia in arums fold who i feel is a far more dangerous fight for donaire then mares is.
mares has stated a few times its not me nor donaire.we want to fight each other.im not afraid of him and donaires not afraid of me.its the promoters mares said.yep true and maybe networks also.
again no counter offer is needed.you want one ok then if i were arum id send the same thing back to them offering mares 2.5 million far more then mares worth since he is slighly less desireable then donaire.do you think golden boy and mr shaffer would say yes to there own offer which they claim is fair..hell no.
rigos folks and arum need to consintrate on making that fight happen and not waste time energy and unneeded anger over this PR stunt.by the way contracts are all about specifics.
i agree that i have never negociated a contract like this before but your analogy with the house doesnt at all fit with this situation. a better anology would be buying a house, not selling one. this is one of the biggest fights to be made in boxing. for example, if you were buying a house and it was appraised at 250,000 and then the person who owned it said you had to pay 750,000, and you really wanted the house, you would negociate the price. that is a better anaology. but if you dont want the house that bad, you would probably just say whatever, im not interested enough to negociate.

i just have no idea how this fight isnt a bigger deal to people. for me, its literally the only fight where 2 elite fighters in their prime, in their own weight class, are fighting each other. no other fight like this can be made. why are we brushing this off like its not a big deal? i agree that the promoters are probably the biggest obstacle just like most fights. but i keep saying, donaire is getting treated differently than most top p4p fighters when it comes to this. there has never even been serious talk about him fighting mares and most people arent saying anything. ever since the bantam tourny, the fight should have been made but never was. just like when ward said he wasnt going to fight bute after he won the super 6, a ton of people, including you dmar, said that it was dumb because bute was the next person in line and ward should fight him next. i, on the other hand, said that i agreed that bute should fight someone better and that ward was justified to fight an easier fight.

this is the same situation except for reverse. mares wins the tourny against the best bantams, donaire should have been next in line to fight him and then there was never talk about the fight. there still has never been serious talk about the fight actually happening. only fans bring it up.
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