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Post  Diego408 on Fri Dec 28, 2012 9:56 am

Fighter of the Year- Nonito Donaire: Not a bad pick, But to me Juan Manuel Marquez is the best choice for this year. Donaire is second at best. Avoiding Mares and Rigo this year affects him IMO.

KO of the year- Marquez KO 6th over Pacquiao: The obvious choice. Best KO Ive ever seen in my life.

Round of the Year- Martinez vs Chavez Jr RD 12: I actually agree with this one after further thought. At first I had Tyson Marquez-Brian Viloria RD 6, but I think Dan's choice is better. NO round this year had more drama or everyone on their heels. We have seen Martinez down against Williams, Macklin and Pavlik, but those were all KDs due to Sergio being caught unbalanced one way or the other. Against Chavez Jr, he had him badly hurt and Martinez managed to survive by fighting back on wobbly legs for the last minute of the fight. That was a crazy round.
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Post  SlickMoney on Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:22 pm

The crowd and drama was crazy for rd 12 of Chavez-Martinez but action wise I would give it to Rios-Alvarado. I believe round 5.
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Post  Soonermark890 on Fri Dec 28, 2012 5:39 pm

Its between JMM and Donaire. I lean toward Donaire but either is fine with me.

That KO was the best ever.

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Post  captainanddew on Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:03 pm

Dan named Robert Garcia as the trainer of the year. Garcia's fighters had a great year. But who is he really training?

I started listening to a podcast called Leave it in the ring radio (gabe montoya is on there along with the host).

Gabe made a point that I didn't know. He said he wasn't big on giving out awards, but there are alot of boxing writers who don't get a very simple point about Nonito Donaire and Robert Garcia.

Garcia is not really training Nonito Donaire. Or at least not recently. For the Arce fight, Garcia showed up for the fight. That is it. He didn't make it to training camp even 1 day to train Donaire.


Montoya's point was that there are boxing writers giving Garcia trainer of the year and in the first part of the writeup they name Donaire, and Donaire is really trained by other people and Garcia is merely the voice in the corner the night of the fight. If you want to give Garcia trainer of the year, you need to focus on the guys he is actively training (or else call it the cornerman of the year award).

He didn't say so, but I got the feeling that his little hit on some other boxing writers was aimed at Fat Dan (who doesn't know the facts or incorrectly doesn't let them be known).

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Post  captainanddew on Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:08 pm

don't get me wrong, Garcia's fighters had a great year and he is probably doing a ton of work with most of them, but assholes like Dan need to let that little part be known when they throw out Donaire's name.

On the night of a fight, any of us could give Donaire advice. Nonito, keep this fight at a distance. Look for the left hook.

Against Arce my 5 year old son could have been the cornerman. He could tell him things like, "just bam him in the head" and it is more than Donaire needed to destroy Arce.


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Post  SlickMoney on Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:02 pm

The boys at MaxBoxing don't hide the fact that they dislike Dan. But fuck Montoya and Steve Kim, they're both blowhards who have agendas with everything they write.
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Post  Diego408 on Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:30 pm

SlickMoney wrote:The boys at MaxBoxing don't hide the fact that they dislike Dan. But fuck Montoya and Steve Kim, they're both blowhards who have agendas with everything they write.
Montoya is a douche. He blocked me for questioning him on his claims Marquez was on PEDs without any evidence. All his claims were from what Conte observed or some stupid shit. The guy makes allegations with no credibility behind it. I like Steve Kim, but I think a lot of writers are douche bags, Dan Rafael being the biggest.
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